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Anonymous
4 years ago

​Mouse & Keyboard Should AT LEAST Have The Ability To Play M&K Only.

Mouse & keyboard do not deserve to be aim assisted while they try to play by their own means. Respawn developers want everyone to play together, but that's simply not fair when aim assist is involved...
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ndcu679
4 years ago
@Popa2caps I agree with you. Everyone knows that .60 and .40 percent are pretty huge advantages in cqc. I have killed far more mechanically skilled players specifically because they pushed close range without realising I was on controller. For context I am diamond four and have killed masters/preds for taking cqc 1v1s against me.
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Anonymous
4 years ago

@ndcu679 

I honestly don't think most controller players even understand that point of view, but I think I do (correct me if I'm wrong).

These last couple of days I've been using a mouse & keyboard and close quarters combat is super hard. Most of the time I can't even see the person I'm fighting, so I just hipfire (it kind of helps).

Muzzle flash, surrounding area lighting, hit screen effects, evo shield effects, repositioning my mouse, me accidentally hitting the wrong keyboard key...

Now if I was using a controller, just no thought at all. I could sit there all day looking in one direction and hold the space with my beam of death. The only hard part while using a controller is looting or when the analog sticks are to move by themselves.

My Razer Wolverine Ultimate is so bad now. The extra bumpers are loose and just slide around in the controller. The analog sticks need a deadzone of 8% or they move everywhere (linear curve).

I've never used the 4 bottom buttons, they're just in a bad position. My normal bumpers double click when I use them so I ping enemies incorrectly at my location if I ping items.

How is this device being so broken that I can compete in 2K damage games repeatedly? It just doesn't make logical sense when it's so broken, but yet the aim assist just does it magic.

That's the current issue with aim assist in my opinion. It helps on a level that no human could even contest. Sure it might seem subtle, but it just does so much that most don't even know it.
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    ndcu679
    4 years ago
    @Popa2caps 0 response curve with 8 deadzone is borderline throwing on controller since you are counteracting the immediate response with a large input deadzone. However if you were coming from mnk that 40% aa would still feel insane cqc. If you really want to see how busted it could get, do fine aim, 10 response, and 0 deadzone with whatever sense you want.
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      Anonymous
      4 years ago

      @ndcu679 

      I might have confused you about my controller setup.


      I used the advanced controller menu while using the controller in Apex Legends. Sensitivity is 500, ADS sensitivity 255 and all aim acceleration was disabled (0), curve is set to linear (0) with inner deadzone around 7-8%, outer deadzone set to 1.


      basically a copy of the streamer, "Extesyy".
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEYTwYT2KjY


      The potentiometer in my Razer Wolverine Ultimate is just done, and that's why the dead zone needs to be set to 7-8%. Understand, this isn't a Microsoft and/ or Sony controller, it uses different potentiometers compared to other brands. The analog stick still moves even while at a 7-8% dead zone.


      I also don't think anything is wrong with my controller settings as I was hitting high damage 2-3k damages quite regularly (really depends on the match though). I also didn't move from mouse & keyboard to controller, but the other way around. I've been using controllers long before ever using the mouse & keyboard for gaming.


      I moved from controller to mouse & keyboard because I felt I was the issue in PC lobbies. New mouse & keyboard users don't get that much damage, and I felt I was causing them to quit playing the game, so I switched input devices.


      At this time, I'm sticking with my mouse & keyboard, but I think I totally understand your point of view with CQC and controllers. It was just easy to do, even more so if on console.

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