Anyone else confused about how the SBMM works?

apex legend is well known for having the worst matchmaking of any BR and only catter to 3stacks.

@WilliamMoon20

I dont think that Respawn ever said that casual game modes is supposed to have a "hard" SBMM. Perhaps they do some rough sorting, like trying to place the real low skilled players in another lobby than 3-stack predator-level players or splitting 3-stacks and solo Qs as much as possible, but other than that, I think casual mode is like one big melting pot. One subtle indication of this is that ranked mode has the text "play against similary skilled players" or something like that whereas causal modes havent.

I kinda like this tbh; this means that your "absolute" skills will determine how you do in you games when playing casual. That means that if you are average, you will have average result but if you are good, you will do better.

Guess casual mode is causal and ranked mode is hard SBMM.. The sad thing is that Respawn define "skill" in SBMM for ranked as "current rank" and not actual skills in the game, which makes ranked mode feel unfair if you are low skilled.

@MrGreenWithAGunThe game is infested with cheaters and smurfs, and the player base is dropping, too. I always thought that MM should be able to work better when there are more players online but at the beginning over every season it is the same if not worse. Whatever they are doing, it doesn't work. Anybody that solo queues will tell you how freaking broken the MM in Apex is. It is honestly neglect at this point.

Really? Casual modes are just 1 big pot and randomly selected to go together. Honestly I see this, because I got matched with a level 4 player and in the same lobby the champions were 10000 career kills. That's definitely infuriating to me though. I play for fun, not to die to people who play this game most of their free time 

The problem I see is you cannot setup a custom match with friends as easily with Apex Legends as you could with something like Halo because you need 30 players minimum as to say 4 or 8.

but it would be interesting if they let you fill in that 30 with bots.

These last 2 weeks have been the worst in some time at least for me, i mean it was bad before but now is a total * fest out there. There are no more "easy lobbies" anymore and now if you play solo you're guaranteed a bot as a team member and premades, smurfs, sweats or cheaters as enemies every single match. Matchmaking launches the game when exactly 60 players are in queue and it does not wait  for more players to provide a better experience and so this is never gonna improve.

PD: The double mozams meta has also hurt a lot the experience in game since now people can erase you even faster than before if that could've been possible and developers not nerfing it roght away just shows how much they give a fk bout the game integrity.

@DeepBeatsExactly what I experienced all night tonight, I got 1 bot + 1 kamikaze as teammates as Gold 2 players and sweats with 4 k badges, 20 bomb badges as opponents from any rank Rookie to Gold.

Story kept repeating itself somehow, the kamikaze would go 1v3 far from me and instantly get downed, the idiot would then run towards them and go for a 1v3 as well so both would be in a box in a matter of seconds. Then I would easily respawn them if we had a support player after the kamikaze would have said in the mic how I was an idiot not worth playing with.

@DeepBeats"These last 2 weeks have been the worst in some time at least for me, i mean it was bad before but now is a total * fest out there. There are no more "easy lobbies" anymore and now if you play solo you're guaranteed a bot as a team member and premades, smurfs, sweats or cheaters as enemies every single match. Matchmaking launches the game when exactly 60 players are in queue and it does not wait for more players to provide a better experience and so this is never gonna improve."

I'm seeing the EXACT same thing. I just played 6 matches in a row yesterday where my teammates got immediately deleted by 3 stacks every single time. Hot dropping, contested POI, or land edge and loot up...it didn't matter. First time they ran into an enemy they were dead before I could blink and then the 3 stack was all over me. I quit after one Valk died with 0/0/0 and 1 damage. That's almost impossible to do even if you are trying!