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Monhulio's avatar
Monhulio
4 years ago

Caustic's Defensive "Roll"

I truly feel like the question needs to be asked with caustic: What kind of defensive roll does he provide?  Problem: Gas is a double edged sword in that it's 50/50 if it provides visual cover whil...
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Kinesis862
4 years ago

Personally my only and biggest gripe with Caustic right now is that he utterly fails at his intended purpose, keeping people at distance. Too many streamers and "delete caustic" types all scream every time they hit a gas trap that does all of 5 damage and they easily walk right out of it, yet they keep screaming that caustic is overpowered somehow.

Like the whole dang point of that trap was to keep you from flanking me, yet you walked right through it like it was nothing and took all of 10 damage from such reckless behavior.

I would like to see caustic's traps do more at inhibiting players, keeping them in the gas with slow movement if they dare pass through and damaging shields first rather than damaging them directly to health incredibly slowly. As is, traps are just a joke to anyone who even remotely wants to push on you. You can throw traps all around yourself and people will just walk up, trigger them, and walk right out barely any worse for wear, and so quickly that by the time you check the activated trap your threat vision of them is already gone.

  • Monhulio's avatar
    Monhulio
    4 years ago
    @Kinesis862 I wholeheartedly agree and feel the exact same way. It's a "trap" that does 5 damage and prompts the enemy to either push through and ignore it recklessly or backup before Caustic players even have time to react to their presence.

    The sad part is, the gas does already slow enemies, and they can't sprint within. However this doesn't really feel like any kind of detriment unless they are 100% immersed in the gas, which is actually quite rare unless the player is reckless and the caustic literally sets up a trap every 5 feet or so (or final ring). It's also why I thought if the ultimate was the gas barrels, maybe they would ACTUALLY get stuck in the gas trap, because the radius is legitimately large and they can't just push through or double back. While you would have 3 less traps, you would have double the radius and the trap would actually do its job.

    Too many non-caustic players say "the gas is OP" and "his hitbox" is the problem. Thing is, the more skilled players are already less likely to miss their shots, so that 15% damage reduction and not being slowed can be really good.

    Enemies rarely feel "trapped" by a caustic. Part of the issue as well is that his entire kit revolves around the gas. When they buffed the damage output people screamed about it, and it was really powerful when players actually did get stuck in the gas, but they still rarely ever did.

    I'd sooner see the gas deal shield and life damage simultaneously tho rather than convert it all to shield damage. 5 and 5 maybe, and if the shield is empty different values because 10 straight life damage was apparently too much.