Cheaters still ruining your game
Wow...just wow. 3 times in one match grenades are appearing at my feet and behind walls. so much fun. your game is being ruined by cheaters and aim bots but hey lets get that new event out. your...
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@Midnight9746 I've been spectating every match lately. Out of about 5 matches, only a once did I spectate a team or 2 without obvious recoil hacking.
I swear I saw an aimbot but the guy died so fast I couldn't report it or verify. Perfect center-of-mass-tracking as opponent jumped around him, but last squadmate for said
I swear I saw an aimbot but the guy died so fast I couldn't report it or verify. Perfect center-of-mass-tracking as opponent jumped around him, but last squadmate for said
I havent seen a cheater in a while now, at least 2-3 splits and the total number of cheaters since S3 can be counted on my fingers. But just out of curiosity; why do you assume that it was by a cheat only because you dont understand how a grenade landed close to you? Have you ever heard of a currently existing cheat that makes grenade go through walls, because I guess thats what you are saying. There are so many other possibilities that dont involve cheats. How do you even know it was the enemies behind the wall that threw it? It could have been a Fuse standing above you or from your flank, shooting them with pinpoint accuracy. It could have been a lucky lobbed grenade etc
I just dont get why everyone jumps to the conclusion about cheats every time something they dont fully understand happen to them. Thats why we need kill cam. If PUBG manage to recreate an entire match up to the point you died for 100 players on much bigger maps, then I think it isnt too much to ask of Respawn to do the same. The technology of recreation-based replays has been around since Quake =)
This game has pretty much turned into cheaters only smurphing. Every single "low level" (I'm meaning levels 1-55) are smruphs, with most being cheaters. Not to mention, because you /force/ cross-play on PC users, most of the time, we get these console players who are clearly using xim or strikepacks in the matches, and its either a high level console player /boosting/ a low level PC player, or both are low levels.
- @Balladalidila I agree about the part regarding jumping to conclusions, sometimes indeed players are just good, lucky / you make some stupid moves that you don't realize in the heat of the moment.
About not seeing hackers... well man either you are semi-blind or you tolerate no-recoil as not a hack. Literally, I could send you a demo of each of my ranked games - currently P4+.
Yesterday during ~8h playing time alone I did not manage to take ANY!!! zip line (horizontal or vertical) without being knocked, and I mean I did play well and I have done it before, but yesterday it was just laser-fest.
The same applies to Valkarie ult - either people know something I don't but I was shot down a few times during the vertical phase of the ult (one where I am moving already at a very high speed), and every 2nd!!! time in the air hit from 100% healthy to almost knocked.
And it all happened in one day just like someone flicked the switch. Ok ziplines I could have theoretically f-up - timing, angles, not jumping/rotating on them, etc. But Valk ult...
Plus weird coincidence - what people who are shooting you on those occasions are using?! You can guess two guns they use and I am sure you will be right.
***Spoiler alert*** Wingman and L-Star.
Recording and kill cam would be a good addition to the game yet if the banning procedure remains the same it would be still pointless as I keep seeing <50 level players that are rocking all kinds of hacks = they just create a new account at best and keep playing. Banning process should be close to instant - people detect a hacker in game, X amount of reports done, the player should be banned from Respawn side - automatically or with human involvement - instantly, not keep running around lobbies for at least a day which you often see in Diamond lobbies when there is a limited number of players via champion squad being one and only throughout the evening/night most of the time."About not seeing hackers... well man either you are semi-blind or you tolerate no-recoil as not a hack. "
Hehe I've heard this argument since the PUBG days, basically "you are just too bad to recognize a hacker when you see one" =) I dont think I can change or even affect your experience but all I can say is that this is my honest experience from playing on EU. I dont shy away from criticizing this game but when it comes to the cheating problem, I just dont share this opinion and I am truly sorry for your experience because it must pretty much ruin the game if you feel that many of your losses happen due to cheaters?
Whenever I get beamed or HSed on long range or whatever, I ask myself this very simple question: "Could I have, perhaps with some luck, done the same thing in this same situation?". And in 99.9% cases, the answer to this question is: yes. Because when I just look at it objectively, I 200-to-zero people left and right, especially in pubs or <Diamond ranked. I land crazy long rang wingman headshots with 1x cog, partly because I have practiced with it and have a good feeling for the bullet drop, but ofc also partly because of luck/randomness.
People talk about no recoil scripts, which I dont deny exist, but I just think people see no recoil script every time they get beamed by a good player. Truth is that within 1-20 meter where most knocks happens, the horizontal deviation from recoils with most autoweapons is so small that it wont affect the spray too much anyways. As long as you control the vertical recoil, you will dash out a good amount of dmg as long as you have a decent trace aim. And then we have the master/pred skilled players who actually spent hours and hours of practicing also the horizontal recoil patterns so OFC they will beam you, especially if you arent even close to master/pred level yourself. But if someone would do 150-200 dmg w one clip on very long range, like 50+ m, then I would be suspicious but that never happens to me!.. Sure, 50-100 dmg sometimes but again; can I do 100 dmg on 50 + w a R301 sometimes? And the answer is yes.
Just an example video from a game this morning where I do 150-200 dmg in one clip on three opponents in a row and would probably have done the same on the fourth if I have had more than 50 HP when I started to shoot. And I am NOT saying this was a out of the ordinary well played played situation, its just a very standard fight in pubs.
Or an older video of one clips from the S1 Kings canyon LTM..
@Balladalidilafor my game analysis and questioning situations - I do that as well, I record all my games most of the days (when I am trying actually to be as good as possible, have 100% focus, when I don't I skip recording as I know that I will make some mistakes).
Yet my conclusions after my video analysis remain the same - there is too much fishy, lucky, obviously dirty play going on.
I will not post videos now - I don't know how to blur people's names and honestly am to lazy to go learn and do that now just to prove the point.
Regarding Wingman - I am talking about cases where you see people on Diamond level who have 0 game sense e.g. one dude just dropped in front of me while I was running, there were almost no other sounds e.g. ambient of fights going on, dude just ran opposite direction but after I shot him in the back he turned around and 3 shot me with Wingman 136? damage. Luck maybe, but when such a thing happens multiple times per day no matter what you do, how you strafe and then you see those Youtube videos where Wingman bullets just "find" their targets as long as you are looking at least somewhat close to the enemy I personally start to question such shots. Would I bet my money on them...probably no, not yet. Would I do that after seeing this person's demo of the game remains to be answered. But I ain't a believer in those missing 2 then hit 5 in a row with 3 being headshots kind of scenarios. Doable - yes, doable on constant basis - hell no.
As for the recoil - the close range is out of the question, I agree with all the stated points. I call close range "dummy" and "controller player" distance as that's how most of those players play to win = just rush into your face.
Yet when e.g. one dude lasered me with R-99 first from ~75m during the crazy ongoing fight and then again after I was respawned from ~50m...well I would really like to see his demo and would actually bet my money on no recoil.
301 is out of the question, gun really has almost 0 recoil, when you get higher barrel mods it really seems like 0 recoil. So those shots are doable in my opinion even by quite an average person.
As for your 2nd clip... well there I would question couple of shots.
First the shot from low ground up with attachment-less Devotion (~0:25-0:30) - cursor just stayed wayyyy to steady for that shot. Plus you were not strafing (known thing to mitigate recoil)...initial kick of devotion was there but the rest of the spray was too steady in my opinion.
Also if you look later at ~0:50 when you shoot people on the stairs the cursor has again initial kick and then this floating which is typical Devotion behavior even when you try to control recoil. This shot is what I usually get, the previous one is fishy for me (not going into a pointless discussion into an argument do I think you hack or you hacked on one case but not the other - answer to that is if I would need to bet my money I would, if not I would spectate you more to draw further conclusions).
As for r-99 shots - doable, especially ones with purple barrel = makes R-99 close to R-301. Yet if you would spray people like that in mid-range (as you said 50+ m) constantly, I would pay attention to this type of shot. You can land some of the one mags with R-99 especially if you have attachments and use the gun on a regular basis, also while strafing, but if you would start doing that standing still and on regular basis without attachments I would question the skill.
Plus all these clips are from the public = potentially weaker, less skilled players, which makes one clipping easier.
Situations that do trigger my nerves are the ones when you play well on your good days in Diamond lobbies and you get shot like a nub by a similarly ranked (sub-master / ex master at most) level players.
Finally - what I see no recoilers usually use are L-star, Flatline, Havoc. If you can beam these 3 as well feel free to upload those clips and tips on how you do it 🙂
"I havent seen a cheater in a while now"
They are all playing Bloodhunt at the moment, they will be back. 😃
This company has proven it has NO IDEA how to deal with cheaters.
BF2042 in Beta the anticheat has already been beaten.
Would make another thread, but don't see the point, but I'm starting to feel like cheaters can also control the sounds they give off. A lot of the players I'm seeing use aimbot, aren't making any loud footsteps, and I don't hear their gun fire half the time.
Make some recordings of all these cheaters and we can have a civil conversation about something real instead of discussing what we "feel".
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