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fuzzykeuh
New Vanguard
4 years ago

Control LTM Feedback Megathread

- When the enemy is dominating the middle objective, and you sneak around to capture the controlpoint near the enemy base, nobody can even spawn there. For me this takes away all of the tactical point of this gamemode. I understand the goal is probably to avoid spawnkilling, but then at least wait to block the spawn near enemy base untill the middle point is controlled as well. Capturing the point when nobody of your team is able to spawn there to come help defend it, or squeeze the enemy in the middle, means the enemy can take it back very easily and you are back to the same situation as before, wasting valuable minutes for no significant influence on the game.

- Games sometimes feel a bit short for me, but i guess it's because the stats don't count right?

- Control is disappointing. As much as i was looking forward to it, and really hoping this gamemode would finally give us an alternative way of enjoying the game and release us of the relentlessness SBMM that has been tormenting many of us 'solo above average player's.

A gamemode with 2 teams is perfect for creating actual random lobbies, where the first 18 people who want to play control get throw into the pot. Preds and noobs together, whoever lines up. You devide them in equal teams so the best ones are not in the same team and everyone still has a 50% of winning. There is absolutely no reason to fill every game up with preds, masters predators and 4k/20kill heroes. I mean, whyyyyyy???? A real shame they chose to go this way so i doubt i'll be investing more time in this gamemode, or Apex at all tbh. After so many seasons of torment, i'm absolutely sick of this ****.

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  • The teams need to be of equal skill fighting other teams of equal skill. The current design is flawed. This mode  could be so fun but Respawn refusing to do skill-based matchmaking for a capture point mode is flabbergasting to say the least. 

  • NitefireOP's avatar
    NitefireOP
    Not applicable
    3 years ago

    Hello Respawn,

    I'm not sure if you'll read this, but if you do, I want you know that I thoroughly enjoy the Control Point mode. In addition to be a super fun team deathmatch (and basically the team rumble version for Apex), this mode is also the perfect way for me to warm up for Battle Royale as well as practicing new characters as well.

    I hope we can see a scenario where we get Control Point as a permanent mode someday. If you guys can, I know for sure I wouldn't bounce around between Apex and some of your other competitor's games.

    Thanks 🙂

  • Shertgun's avatar
    Shertgun
    Not applicable
    3 years ago

    My feedback after mostly just playing this mode the last week:

    • Out of the 3 maps, I only enjoy the Olympus one. (because it is linear and not a triangle)
      • Worlds Edge: B is too open --> you can attack A and C from B directly. Rotation / spawning in lava is not optimal, too many roof campers
      • Storm Point: same as above, you can grief both points from top directly, B point too small
    • Capping a point while timer ticks should stop the lockout.
    • Let us swap weapon slots in the selection screen
    • More PTFO encouragement / rewards
    • NO purple / gold shields
    • FIX the spawn position
  • After quite a lot of games it feels like Control essentially boils down to "who has the most master players". The amount of times a single (squad) of master player(s) dominated the entire game was astonishing and demoralising.

    Especially when those masters start spawn killing.

    Having (what seems like) unbalanced teams feels ome of the biggest problems with control (and all of Apex to be honest).

  • Awhoo_Thunder's avatar
    Awhoo_Thunder
    Not applicable
    3 years ago

    When Control comes into game I never play anything else. Any other game, any other mode, nothing. I cant even watch my favorite YouTube videos before I go to sleep because I just cant get enough of it. I WISH IT WAS PERMANENT THING really. I just wish I could play this a bit more often before I go to sleep for ever. :D Im getting so much better in game and so quick, it is like a dream. Apex is very hard game and Battle Royale just isnt enough fighting to get good. Arenas are just too competitive and sweaty so I cant really enjoy it. This Control is just chill and intense fights all match long at the same time, its perfect.

    New map (Lava Siphon) is the best map ever, maybe Wattson is a bit overpowered there, but its because noone thinks of playing Crypto and EMP those fences out of the way so yeah, Wattson is okay if she can be countered.

    Control could be even Ranked because why not ? If Overwatch 6v6 can be Ranked why 9v9 Apex couldnt ? 🙂

    I hate seeing people complaining about unballanced teams, you can still have good fun if your team dont leave because Apex isnt Overwatch. Please dont complain, we want this mode to be permanent.

  • Midnight9746's avatar
    Midnight9746
    Hero+
    3 years ago
    @Awhoo_Thunder I rather not see ranked control unless they fully delete Arenas. Simply put having 7 "modes" (duos, trios, trio ranked, arenas, arenas ranked, control, and control ranked), is too many modes to split people across and I doubt that many people are going to want to grind 3 different rank modes, or a combination of them. The main modes have a lot of players, while arenas seems to have only like 5% of the game's playerbase playing it (don't know exact numbers, just that you see diamond-preds in bronze-plat matches because they don't really have anyone to fight).

    Not to mention the fact that they need a better anticheat. I just got done playing 4 matches of control, and saw 3-5 players on the enemy team, with 2-3 that I've noticed on my own team (when we fought near each other) using aimbot and what appears to be wall hacks.

    If they can solve the hacking issue (or actually detect people cheating more often than not), narrow down the modes, amonst fix issues like audio, servers, etc. and do something about the smurphs, then the game should have a larger community to eventually support 3 main modes and 3 ranked modes.

    Currently I don't see that being a thing.
  • 903912093's avatar
    903912093
    Not applicable
    2 years ago

    Ladies and Gentlemen, some of my ideas to improve Control. Take these with a grain of salt as I am not an expert

    -Big Brother

    I don't know why this keeps happening but for most matches in control, I often found that a third of the team or even just a couple of players were doing extraordinarily well while the others did notably less well. This needs to be fixed because not only does it not improve players, it also can cause team wipes depending on the skill of the big brother in question. 

    -Care packages and armor reduction

    This one sounds balanced because an equal amount of them land on each side. However if one team is destroying the other then the CP weapons and gold armor land in the hands of the enemy which makes the chance of recovery even worse. This can be fixed by providing gold weapons instead of CP weapons and removing gold (and purple) armor from the care package and limiting purple to lifeline packages.

    -Mobile Respawn Beacons

    I think this is pretty straightforward, these either do nothing or act as a major nuisance as the enemy team floods the point, making defense even more difficult. My suggestion as replacement is a temporary fourth point to not only take flak off B but also to act as kind of a mobile respawn beacon while ensuring a much greater impact on the battle and temporary so that teams aren't spread too far apart.

    -People joining an existing match

    They should not be getting purple gear. I think instead they could start with purple weapons, I think these don't have as much impact as armor and since these people join usually quickly after a match starts it sill has some good effect.

    There are probably more but these are the ones at the top of my head. 

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