Wingman is always OP in these seasons.High damage, no damage falloff and suitable for all range combat.Wingman is just a PISTOL, so please at least add the damage falloff like other guns.And increase it's bullet use per shot to 2 and double its mag size (hence it can still shoot 8 times before reload with purple mag, just increase its bullet consumption). The fact that a flatline with anvil receiver in season 4 deals less damage per shot when compared to Wingman shows that Wingman is too OP.

@Xx__Miku831__xX Yeah but they missing from long range and that's for sureBut yeah I think is kinda need damage falloff from long range

@SolitaryMassacreBig yawn.. All I gotta say to you. This whole response is short sighted. Here is why."You keep saying "Wingman is hard to snipe with" but you are wrong." Nope, personal experience, but more importantly, HOURS ON HOURS of watching pro Apex players streaming tells me I am not wrong. There is so much footage out there proving that wingman isn't something you just pick up and dominate with. Watch a game of a streamer playing against other predators and count how many shots they hit compared to how many shots are fired. I did so with a random vid of first NRG_Aceu and then TSM's Albralelie. Both players had a hit percentage of less than 30%. Explain that if the wingman is so freaking easy to use and aim with. Additionally, in both of those vids, both players and their squads ultimately did not win, and Aceu's squad all had wingmen and actually lost to a squad that didn't use the wingman. That in itself should tell you all you need to know.Now that we established the above, so what if wingman does not have ads slowdown? Guess what, wingman is actually not that accurate while you move (less than 30% hit rate on 2 of the best players in the world, remember?), and here's more, players have TWO guns on em so that they can carry another weapon more suitable for close to mid range combat. Try hip firing a hemmie, they are actually more accurate than wingman and a VERY good counter cause they are more forgiving. You hit 2 out of 3 bullets in a burts, that is 44 damage body shots, 1 less than the wingman. Hit all 3 and that's 66. And you can move at 100% speed, weeeee. I am gonna stress this once more, I kill far more more wingman users than wingman users kill me, so if wingman is such a overly dominant weapon, how the heck can this occur? Oh I know, BECAUSE THE WINGMAN ISN'T OP!!!! Ok, next.."I am not even finished here either. If you know anything about physics, you know F=ma." I can't even.. You bringing up real world rules into a discussion about a FICTIONAL WORLD only makes you appear like an idiot to me. Word of advice, never do that again. Like ever."You say snipers pack the most damage per bullet, yes because they are bigger bullets and travel faster." No, it's because of the rules that the devs made for firing those sniper type guns.. Fictional world bro, custom rules, even the time you gotta wait before you can take your next shot, as well as the time it takes to reload a gun."I present all my points due to the fact this game is a battle royal." Did you even put ANY thought into that line? Battle Royale just means the point is to be the "last man/woman/squad standing". The "weapons" in this game coulda been throwing spears, thrown rocks, sling shots, shooting each others with pillow cannons, playable characters being aliens vomiting toxic bunnies on each others. There aren't any rules that a Battle Royale has to follow other then it being about people duking things out on a battleground in whatever way the devs sees fit until only 1 man/woman or squad remains standing."But when I have a G7 and they have a wingman, I SHOULD have the upper hand but I do not because of the reasons mentioned." Again, flawed. If you got rekt by a wingman user when having a G7 and being at a range then it's not the G7 that cause you to lose.. It was YOU. YOU either had terrible aim or a terrible positioning or moved in incredibly predictable ways. So try to work on that instead of implying that it has to be the wingman that made you lose.. No matter what you believe, it is the player and the players skill that makes the gun. The gun does not magically improve a players awareness, a players ability to move fast, a players ability to position in ways giving him/her an advantage, a players aim precision, a players ability to think fast or even a players reaction time.Wingman is fine.

@xx_Dante2k_xx Wingman is not as high risk as you think.When you are poking from the mid-long range with other team, both of the teams have a smaller chance to get downed by someone at that distance (or at least they need more time to push your team that you should be able to revive them, but it rarely happens to really down a people at long range except someone is using kraber). Wingman can use as AR as they can poke 100% damage at that distance, and it uses only 1 bullet per 45 damage. Surely you guys will say that AR can deal more damage at that distance, but the problem is that you use more bullets than wingman in most situation to deal same amount of damage (G7 only deals 30 per shot, sniper bullets also uses more as it can only stack 16 bullets in one stack), and actually wingman can also output similar amount of damage in any period of time. Hence, both ARs and wingman share the same risk, but wingman has a higher reward, and this is one of the problems that I have mentioned in the thread.*You are also wasting time here as this post is not talking about the R99. Even you think that it is wasting time, I think it is better for you to make a new thread.

@Xx__Miku831__xX Wingman doesn't need a nerf.. It is just you that need to get better.

@Elamami3440 yep, like the Longbow.I agree the Wingman is fine and takes good aim and control to use.

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Elamami3440
6 years ago
@Xx__Miku831__xX Wingman don't need nerf

They reduce the headshot damage in the patch notes, and add skull piercer for high headshots damage

Wingman is way more balanced now

And I want to make this clear that other games have high damage PISTOLS!!!

Fortnite:

Revolver, Hand Cannon(deagle), Six Shooter, Suppressed Pistol

COD:

357, Desert Eagle(deagle)
HLNorsemane
6 years ago
@Xx__Miku831__xX Wingman doesn't need a nerf.. It is just you that need to get better.
xx_Dante2k_xx
6 years ago
@Elamami3440 yep, like the Longbow.
I agree the Wingman is fine and takes good aim and control to use.
Elamami3440
6 years ago
@xx_Dante2k_xxYeah the point is they did in patch notes

They did nerf the wingman for headshots damage and add the hop up for increase it

@Xx__Miku831__xX @_Miku831_xX

THERE'S NO REASON TO NERF THE WINGMAN
Xx__Miku831__xX
6 years ago
I don't deny that other games also have high damage pistols. But the problem is that people use wingman for super long range snipe.
Flatline with anvil receiver had a damage reduction when shoot longer than 38 metres (if I remember it correctly), but wingman does not have this problem.
Last patch note does not solve the problem since they can still snipe you with only a little bit less damage.
Another thing is that wingman consumes less bullets to deal more damage to other guns, it allows player to stack more explosives than others since usually 2 stacks of heavy bullets are enough for 1 game if you play not too aggressive. Its bullet usage should be doubled in other to match other guns in the game.
ILikeGlueHmm
6 years ago
@Xx__Miku831__xX Can you show us compilation of yourself going nutty with the Wingman since its so broken?
Elamami3440
6 years ago
@Xx__Miku831__xX But not every shot is hitting from long range
Xx__Miku831__xX
6 years ago
@Elamami3440Not every shot is from long range does not mean that wingman doesn't need a damage falloff (and actually some abuse it for long range).
It is disgusting to see a Wingman hits 45 damage from a far distance.
Elamami3440
6 years ago
@Xx__Miku831__xX Yeah but they missing from long range and that's for sure

But yeah I think is kinda need damage falloff from long range
Elamami3440
6 years ago
@Xx__Miku831__xX I understand stand your problem unlike that guy saying remove wingman and blaming the gun because he is stupid he saying add the wingman for legendary class