G7 and Peacekeeper nerf.

So... How long's it gonna take to nerf the G7? What's the point of picking up literally any other gun in the game? I, personally, love the Triple-Take, but it is outclassed in every way by the G7 (just an example). You have no time to line up your shots with any of the other snipers b/c the G7 will spray you until you're dead! Seriously, there are no downsides to that gun! Increase the hip-fire, reduce the damage or, at least, make it so you can't put optics and hop-ups on the G7 (prolly shouldn't go that way, but it might work). Also, reducing the mag size would be good, or just give every other sniper a 35-round mag, then they might be on the same level as the G7! Also also, the Peacekeeper is SOOOOOO powerful! Apparently a headshot with the peacekeeper can insta-knock a player with blue shields, I went against a full blue squad with no armor and a peacekeeper, and I kept hitting headshots (which is unnaturally easy with the peacekeeper, I think it either is a bug where it's giving me damage for a HS or something else) and I wiped that squad with relative ease (they prolly thought I was aimbotting, but that's what I get for using that OP piece of crap)! I'll be honest, I felt good about myself at first, but soon realized that it was purely the gun and thru no skill of my own. I dunno if they were full health or not, but I had a blue teammate get insta-knocked by a peacekeeper, and I know he was full health, so... That's all I run into anymore, G7's and Peacekeepers, and those guns are everywhere, so if I wanna be on the same level as the other players then I'll just pick 'em up, but who wants to use the same gun every time!

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RedpawsQ
6 years ago
@Benchwarmerbrew I've mentioned it elsewhere, and I'll mention it again.
Make the Peacekeeper consume 2 ammo per shot. Increase mag size from 6 to 10 (so 5 shots, down from 6). Nerf reload speed slightly.

Increase shotgun ammo stack from 16 to 20 to give the EVA-8 and Mozambique a bit of an indirect buff in drawn out fights.

+25% more ammo per shotgun stack, but +100% ammo consumption for the PK, 1 less shot, and slower reload. The alternative is nerfing its damage directly, but I don't think most people would be happy about that.

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Midnight9746
Hero+
6 years ago
@Robo_The_Man-BotR-99 is a beast too. You can break someone's shields and do health damage in one mag. If you hit your shots. (I had level 3 mag, so I don't know the difference with lower mags). But it still murders people quickly.

Not to mention, each mag empties about 2 or so seconds after firing.
Leo_the_Lion25
6 years ago
G7 nerfed in season 4. No point in making threads about it as the season almost over. Just wait for the patch notes my friend then feel free to discuss the new changes.
All I'm doing is waiting for the update.
creamonurstream
6 years ago
@Robo_The_Man-Bot - I know for a fact that G7 and peacekeeper will loose to a havoc or devotion close range Whay are you saying ?
Robo_The_Man-Bo
6 years ago
@creamonurstream If you have bad aim or latency, but otherwise, at close range, the PK never loses (I've lost a few fights at close range w/ it, but only b/c I missed my shots or b/c of bad hit registration)
Benchwarmerbrew
6 years ago
PK needs an ammo nerf. If you miss most of your shots out of any other gun, you are screwed. With the PK, you can miss 5 out of 6 shots and still do 100+ damage. It needs an ammo reduction and doesnt need a bolt. Theres not a single draw back of the gun
RedpawsQ
6 years ago
@Benchwarmerbrew I've mentioned it elsewhere, and I'll mention it again.
Make the Peacekeeper consume 2 ammo per shot. Increase mag size from 6 to 10 (so 5 shots, down from 6). Nerf reload speed slightly.

Increase shotgun ammo stack from 16 to 20 to give the EVA-8 and Mozambique a bit of an indirect buff in drawn out fights.

+25% more ammo per shotgun stack, but +100% ammo consumption for the PK, 1 less shot, and slower reload. The alternative is nerfing its damage directly, but I don't think most people would be happy about that.
Robo_The_Man-Bo
6 years ago
@RedpawsQ Yeah, I like making it take more ammo but also giving it more ammo (and nerfing the mag size), that'd fix the problem w/o ruining the gun. Alternatively, they could nerf the damage to the Mozambique's damage but make it way more consistent, so you didn't have to worry about your shots doing 11 dmg and everyone else didn't have to worry about your shots doing more than 50 dmg (I believe it's like 42 dmg for Mozambique), they should also remove any headshot multipliers for the PK, because that gun hits way too hard with a headshot and it's super easy to hit one with it! Anyway, I like your nerf ideas, it's prolly not something Respawn'll do, though, but hopefully, they'll do it! They should also prolly make the Mozambique five shots, or make it more accurate to kind of put it on par with the other shotguns.
xpl0its
6 years ago
Read what I said here about the G7, it doesn't need a Nerf;
https://answers.ea.com/t5/General-Feedback/Nerf-G7Scout/m-p/8686595#M38538
A G7 is a Light Ammo weapon, if you only have LVL1 mods on it, it's not that strong and easy to kill someone, especially at distance, because it is a sniper rifle.
Anyone who thinks it needs a Nerf go out and play with it only using LVL1 mods on it, then tell us how Nerfed it needs to be. Because anyone able to kill people then, is either playing up against some really bad players, or just down right lucky.
Sure in White Armor it has a bit of strength against, heck even a P2020 or Mozambique, will take people down in White.
People who think this needs a nerf, I'd like to see them kill someone using LVL1 mods on a G7 against someone using a Devotion, both players of equal skill and armor.
Robo_The_Man-Bo
6 years ago
@xpl0itsI did it today (albeit, he was using a PK), the only mod I had for it was a stock (lvl1) and one of those round sights with the weird ring and a dot in the middle (not sure what it's official name is, but it is lvl1), it was endgame too, so we both had purple armor. I had ten shots, and it only takes 6 (four with headshots, I believe) to kill someone with purple armor. So I had no problem killing the guy... Also, the devotion is unbalanced, but it's hard to find energy ammo, and the gun has a lotta recoil (easy to control recoil, but nothing like the lvl of easy that the G7 is). I'm gonna venture to guess that you're either terrible with the G7 or you just use it all the time and don't want your favorite, OP weapon to get nerfed.
RedpawsQ
6 years ago
@xpl0its Honestly, the G7 is probably one of the BEST guns when you only have white mods available, since the first mag upgrade increases the mag from 10 to 15. That's a 50% upgrade with only a white mag. Really, all you need to make a G7 work well is a white mag and some optics (I CANNOT use those irons at all, they're just awful).

I mean, OBVIOUSLY a Devotion will outgun it if you're going by the paper DPS. I mean, if you're going purely by DPS, why would you ever use anything but an L-Star or R-99? But even in your example, add any amount of cover and 10+ meters of range, and the G7 has the advantage. And the further out you are, the bigger the advantage over most guns gets, up to very long range, where the Charge Rifle beats it.

For such a versatile weapon, the damage output is a bit too high, and come to think of it, so is the magazine size. I think reducing the fire rate slightly, and making each mag upgrade only give +2 rounds (16 rounds with purple) would help bring it in a little. Just really hope they don't nerf the damage, 34 damage per shot feels perfect on it.