Gun Recoil
Where is it at? Every player who can beam me from 100 meters with a 99 has ZERO recoil. Almost everyone i watch even good pros have zero recoil. This is virtually impossible to not see some kind of s...
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@Shockwave743 I hate to say it, but I feel a bit like that too. Not directly perhaps, but it's common logic that those willing to spend money on cheats on a free game, either to stream and make money etc or just for fun, are also the same people to blindly spend thousands on skins and other cosmetics, fuelling the revenue of the game. If you ban a cheater who spends money, you're banning a portion of income. I think that's how they feel, whether they want to say it out loud or not.
My view however, is that these idiots will beg to be let off the hook anyway, and still spend money on the game, probably by buying a new console and trying to replace their skins.
That, and, it'd just really be cool if Respawn said "Look, you've broken the rules consistently, knowingly, and frequently. It's not our problem that you've funnelled £3k into the game, it's in our T&Cs - Goodbye".
I'll even pledge to spend more of MY cash on the game if cheaters are dealt with just to make up any lost income.
I just want a fair * game where I can enjoy, play with and introduce it to friends without them getting massacred, and stop idiots and clowns and pathetic no lifers having their enjoyment boosted at a cost of my own. It's not too much to ask.
My view however, is that these idiots will beg to be let off the hook anyway, and still spend money on the game, probably by buying a new console and trying to replace their skins.
That, and, it'd just really be cool if Respawn said "Look, you've broken the rules consistently, knowingly, and frequently. It's not our problem that you've funnelled £3k into the game, it's in our T&Cs - Goodbye".
I'll even pledge to spend more of MY cash on the game if cheaters are dealt with just to make up any lost income.
I just want a fair * game where I can enjoy, play with and introduce it to friends without them getting massacred, and stop idiots and clowns and pathetic no lifers having their enjoyment boosted at a cost of my own. It's not too much to ask.
@littlxr Not remotely true at all. I own every single skin out there every banner every pose every tracker i have spent a lot money on this game and never used a cheat. They will ban you in heart beat even if you have spent 10k with them. The money is a bonus to them never expected. So to lose something they never counted on being there is not much of a problem.
- @E9ine_AC Fair enough. So why do you personally think they're keeping so tight-lipped on the whole cheating affair?
That, and removing the option to report players on PS4 back in April 2019, and not reinstating it yet.- @littlxr To cheat on console is a very very hard task to do. It can be done yes but this means you have access the providers software as well as the games from console. So chance of running into real cheaters on console are quite slim not to say its not possible but not easy at all to do and id assume very tight knit operation and not sharing. They dont respond to this well cause they either dont know how to do it currently working on how to detect it and cant give insight towards it as it may compermise their work with work arounds.
@E9ine_ACI just want to clarify something.
The anti-recoil you're referring to is also present in PS4 on a large scale, because of keyboard and mouse adapters mainly, but also simple third party mods like CronusMax and Strike Packs, among other lesser known but highly popular scripts and adapters. I've never played on PC, my issue with cheaters is on PS4, but it's the same one you face.
Third party mods allowing for keyboard and mouse use are extremely popular in the PS4 FPS gaming scene for obvious reasons, and as a result, so are the scripts and macros for them, identical to those available on PC. People have been cheating on PS4 using a mouse for years, but lately it's blown up monumentally with the increase in options and lack of action by developers. As you know from your own experience and spectating others, it's instantly and abundantly clear when someone is cheating and exploiting anti-recoil. The same can unfortunately be said on PS4, which is my whole issue here.
Undetectable by anti-cheat perhaps, but not by the simple experienced eye during spectating. This is why I'd like a response, not just because they're running rampant, but because on PS4 we don't even have the option to report anybody any more, and haven't for 14+ months. For this reason particularly, as a PS4 player, I feel like our experiences and opinions are being disregarded.
And what makes this worse, is that a large contingent of gamers still avidly believe that cheating on console is rare and difficult to do. That's the scary part, because the more I hear it, the longer I feel it'll take for the issue to get the attention it deserves.
Most players I play alongside and against now, probably due to SBMM, don't have recoil on PS4. That's the unfortunate fact of the matter, whether others experience it at the same level or not, who knows - but I certainly do, and I would invite anyone to watch me play, and spectate my killers and teammates to see it for themselves.Edit: This is a large portion of the issue I'm referring to. It's a simple addon for the PS4 controller, no intelligence needed, and it is EVERYWHERE.
And this is what everyone I spectate lately on PS4 looks like:
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