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camersss_1
New Novice
2 months ago

apex undetectable cheaters

If I were running a large live game with millions of players and the core issue was undetectable hardware cheats like Cronus Zen, Titan, or XIM, I would not try to win a losing war by detecting the devices themselves. Instead, I would focus on detecting behavior and outcomes. Hardware cheats still produce inhuman patterns such as perfect recoil control across all weapons, unnaturally consistent micro adjustments, and reaction times that remain statistically impossible over long sessions, and those patterns can be analyzed server side using confidence scoring similar to fraud detection rather than instant bans. Once a player crosses certain thresholds, I would avoid immediate enforcement and instead apply silent, escalating countermeasures by matching them primarily with other flagged players, subtly increasing recoil variance, reducing aim assist effectiveness, or introducing minor input inconsistencies that feel like bad form or lag rather than punishment. This removes the advantage without triggering backlash or rapid adaptation. Ranked play would be protected through higher integrity queues that prioritize trusted input behavior, while casual modes remain open, and core game systems would be designed to resist scripting through dynamic, state dependent mechanics that humans can adapt to but scripts cannot. Finally, I would shift incentives by rewarding clean play with better matchmaking quality, exclusive cosmetics, and prestige, while being publicly transparent without revealing detection methods that hardware cheating does not result in dramatic bans but instead leads to a worse and less rewarding version of the game. The goal would not be to eliminate cheaters entirely, but to eliminate the value of cheating so that it becomes frustrating, unrewarding, and self isolating over time.

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  • They don't even want to let PC players completely separate from their consoles, let alone consider blocking dozens or even hundreds of different cheats.

    I'm also **bleep** daily by console players in the PC lobby... It's pure madness.

  • camersss_1's avatar
    camersss_1
    New Novice
    2 months ago

    it really just seems like instead of fixing the game and making it fun again, they are adding new game modes and cosmetics to try to make a attempt to get our mind away from the fact they don't give [removed] about actually making the game enjoyable and playable, 

    and don't even get me started on how bad the ranked servers have been…

  • don't get me wrong the game is amazing, its thrilling and aggressive and comp, but if they would just stop being so money hungry and focus on developing and improving the game itself it would revive the game again, in reality the only reason people are coming back right now is because every other BR based game isn't fun, its only a matter of time before fortnite or cod has a big update that steals the players again

  • vVv_Bjoergen_vVv's avatar
    vVv_Bjoergen_vVv
    Rising Ace
    2 months ago

    I don't even know what's going on with the rankings anymore, because what's the point of playing from D4 in solo queue where you get master/pred lobbies every now and then?

    What's the point of playing from D4 in solo queue where most of the rosters are already made? When they had the chance to separate it (they had the players), they did nothing. Now we can forget about it completely.

  • Csgo has an aim rating like this and when it gets past a point it’s sus they get reviewed that’s what this should be also should be illegal to sell them like the do 

  • Today, for the past 4 hours (Wildcard, EU server), I haven't had a single lobby without at least one low-level cheater. Congratulations on your security measures.

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