Gun Recoil
Where is it at? Every player who can beam me from 100 meters with a 99 has ZERO recoil. Almost everyone i watch even good pros have zero recoil. This is virtually impossible to not see some kind of s...
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Ain`t going to happen. More people are using all kind of cheats now. Most pro/streamers are using no-recoil macros/scripts, and the controller players are using either a SP or Cronusmax and its version. The second one can be done wireless, its add stronger aim assist and no-recoil. It can`t be detected, even if you stream with a hand cam straight at your controller.
There is youtubers that are pretty much advertise it, and are still playing to this days, without getting banned, yet there is putting content with it, just lol.
The problem is not just in Apex Legends, but through the whole FPS genre, but doing nothing is not a good decision.
Yesterday a player in Warzone was caught cheating in a tournament. And it was caught cheating not by anti-cheat, but a fellow streamer get susp and do the trick.
And the guy that cheated was a World-record holder, streamer of course. Did you think he is the only one? In Warzone atm is worst. Everyone on controller is on something.
Apex is pretty much the same.
Easy cheats on console, easy cheat on PC.
@LordloshBang I completely agree, but how would Respawn fix this? I have been playing since day one (literally) and from what I can tell the game itself can't check controller inputs, so the only way that Respawn could moderate this would be getting access to the host systems files and Xbox and pc wouldn't do that and Ps4... forgot it we all know that that Sony is a snob when it comes to people touching their stuff.
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@LordloshBangI completely agree, but how would Respawn fix this? I have been playing since day one (literally) and from what I can tell the game itself can't check controller inputs, so the only way that Respawn could moderate this would be getting access to the host systems files and Xbox and pc wouldn't do that and Ps4... forgot it we all know that that Sony is a snob when it comes to people touching their stuff.
Thats why you need to have harsh position from the beginning. The game right now is floated with hacks, and good luck cleaning it up. They won`t even try, cause huge % of the playerbase is hacking. And they will lose a lot of playerbase. Its a lost cause. Its full with macros/scripters, soft cheats, hard cheats, and controller cheats as well.Good luck with that.
Same thing as with any sports = pro level that is -> whatever it takes.
My suggestion for people who are actually good at this / know all this macro thing etc. would be just upkeeping a topic be it here or on Reddit or any other platform with the most up-to-date "developments".
In other words, if "pros" use such things to negate recoil, let's make Apex a recoil-free game and then see who is an actual pro aka who's brain, movement, mechanics is the best...
Otherwise as said earlier developers, streamers, etc. are not interested in getting involved, they all profit from this "feature" just because most of the naive players/followers/part of the community is just not aware and dump money to support their idols or to improve their game. Only people "suffering" here are the ones who actually want to experience this game as it suppose to be - with recoil and mastering recoil patterns as much as possible - which would be comparable to the amateur level in sports where people show 1/2 or even 1/3 of the pro results yet that is the natural peak of human performance.
@Eshshshssthe good macros are paid with monthly sub, cause they are updating them probably, to be undetected. The ones at the top use cheats/macros/etc that worth a lot of money, and we can`t even imagine how smooth they are.
The cheats we are looking at youtube, and so on, this are all 20$ cheats or free cheats.
There is plenty of talks about CS:GO pros and the cheats they are using. Most say they are worth thousands of K.
I know a lot of people in discord who are openly talk about it, and that they are using macros or Strike Pack and Cronus related stuffs.
There is even some new for controller, don`t know the exact name, night something or so.
There is also Apex Xim, that a lot of people are using, now in COD and Apex there is a new wave with smooth Silent aimbot, X-ray, 100% undetected ESP and this guy is running youtube channel and Respawn are doing nothing. :D
He also have a huge group in Discord btw. There is also like hundreds of cheat forums for Apex and COD, with thousands of reply and threads with 50-100k views, which can just tell you how much of the playerbase is using.
Blatant ones are obviously going to get banned, but the ones that cover it well, are not.
As far as the streamer supporters and their fanbase, what you expect from 12 years old ?
WAGNIFICENT a COD streamer was shadow banned, when Warzone finally start detecting the EngineOwning cheat, and the guy was banned with the exact same error msg, as everyone who was using it. This was also his second ban on Warzone. And he was so call permanent HW banned. Every new account straight up shadow banned, and he 100% was cheating with EngineOwning.
But Activision HW ban last between 7-14 days, after that you are free to play on new Acc ..... And guess what happen? :D His brain ..... fanbase still defended him, that he was falsely banned, and they were all over on Activision Twitter account raging to unban him. :D
So what did you expect, tell me? :D
Just look at BadBoy Beaman channel. He is exposing Pro/Streamers on Warzone.
Should i mention that by that time, when Activision finally detected EngineOwning, and let me be correct at this exact time, somehow and in the exact same time their golden boy content creator/pro get his account stolen, and you know the picture. :D
And every single time i heard someone that do impossible thing, and move like madman, spin his mouse like a wheel, and have no-recoil whatsoever i remember about this famous guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9A63Td6qeyc
But, but he is just good at the game, he is just good at controlling the recoil. Its that simple. :D
In a free game with no real IP/HW bans, cheating is always going to be a HUGE problem. You are pretty much doing nothing by banning people. They are back in the next 5 minutes on a new acc.
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