Horizon is the most OP ever
Hey Apex Fam Horizon has been running rampant for nearly two whole seasons now and she’s is by far the most op character to ever come out. I play with the number 1 horizon on console and watch video...
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@LordloshBang Horizon does have one of the best tactical, but in my opinion that's how horizon should be played, A defensive but also attack based legend, there are easy ways to counter, such as cryptos emp, a wraith teleport and even some good gunplay can be useful against her, im not saying horizon doesnt need a nerf, she definetly does, but I think we need to carefully look at the meta, before we erase abilities that make a legend good
TuxTart116, by that logic i want Bangalore to have Wraith tactical, Gibraltar ult, and still be able to smoke and have double timing, is that fair?
And no she doesn`t have one of the, Its the best by far. I was watching Madness warming up for tournament, and playing solo pubs for it, and the guy literally wasted 2 mags at Horizon on her tactical, and hit her like 2 time ....
ShivFPS is constantly missing on her whole mags, and doing less than 50 damage, most of the time.
And actually no, no one counter her, maybe only Gibraltar dome, but dome save you against all, so ....
Again lets repeat:
What Albralelie said its 100% correct. its Devs own words using them for nerfing mechanics and legends.
And they release this .... lets call it - thing.
Again nothing against Horizon or any other legend, but some mechanics should be staying away from the game. Mechanics that are obviously unfair towards the whole player base. You have fun with it, obviously to get away with so much, but others are annoyed hard time.
Again in my mind, no auto-revive should exist in such games, no Goldpacks revive for half of your hp, no using of a tactical like phase, grapple, lift and you to be able to heals on that.
Horizon gives you everything, and that totally meaningless the rest of the legend and the concept we have so far.
Once again, removing her healing while riding to the sky, and nerfing(again nerfing, not removing) her strafing while on her lift and add accuracy penalty as everyone have and this is absolutely fair.
Don`t forget you can jump out of the lift every single second, and you have multiple options with it.
You pretty much can take any high ground, at any given situation, which gives you huge advantage. And you still can use it as reposition, disengage and escape mechanism. But you shouldn`t be allowed to do so, to ride on it, heal, and shoot back with 100% accuracy and pretty much abuse a totally broken mechanic.
At the moment its exactly that.
Lets not forget that while she riding on her Lift, she can use her ult, which is a huge thing, and you can still spam from the sky with nades. On top of that, you can use it this to block doors/corridors and so blocking enemies or totally throws them off.
Add this nerfs and she still going to be S tier, just not totally broken.
But knowing how Devs addressing balance, they are either going to kill her, or nerf something that doesn`t need to be nerf, and will still let the broken mechanic.
You can`t even 3rd party Horizon for god sake ... She is jumping on her from behind,she is dodging all his shots, while doesn`t even know he is shooting at her, on top of that she is completely dodging Gibraltar ult while in the sky .....
ShivFPS, a guy with 111k. on his record, whole mag on her from behind, and just 1 bullet on her, while she is riding to the sky .....
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/974415573
The clip is at 11:15
This clip is actually super funny, because he was matched with 2 cheaters, and he managed to jump one of them over the map and killed him. :D Helping to kill the other one as well. :D
@LordloshBang @KissYourHomieUwU @chuckmynorris Like I said in my previous post, im not saying that a nerf is insane, on the opposite actually, I agree she needs a nerf but the meta requires extreme percision to point, horizon is OP, but before we completely destroy horizon as a character, think about if horizon couldnt strafe or heal on her lift? then its useless, it at that point would provide no extra movement, when traversing landscape, the lift doesnt take you far enough to rival with something like octanes movement
Edit: Even nerfing the strafe and getting rid of healing is catastrophic whats her tactical use now?
- @TuxTart116
But you are not suppose to rival Octane jump pad, you know ?
And still her Lift is like 150x time better.
And no my suggestion won`t make her useless, but still super strong, but balanced. @LordloshBang Her lift doesnt compete for even basic movements with this nerf, if you are sprinting forward and your teammates use a lift to traverse, you gain no extra movement, her lift when used as movement cant compare to any other movement based ability
- @TuxTart116 her lift is giving her unlimited number of choices to use it for.
With the right nerfs as i suggest, it will still give you the right amount of choices, but won`t be OP.
And yeah you can use it as a movement tool. Just watch Timmy a bit and if you know the game, you will understand what i`m talking about.
Even taken the high ground, without anything else is a huge win for ability, esp. at that high.
Yesterday at the "pillions"(the high and long fence if i can call it like that) at Bonsai Plaza a Horizon team in there. They were terrible. I 1 mag with R301 one of them, the other was super low and i even ulted at them with Bangalore(but nothing ofc), and of course they just move back where i got no visibility, he revive and recharge, and same thing again, and i literally can`t do a ....
We was Bangalore and Revenant. Tell me a play to this ...
High ground in this game, means HUGE advantage, if you have even a bit of mechanical skill, and know what your doing.
And her tactical is having 50 more layers onto it - ridiculous.
I hope they really nerf it hard, so she is with the rest of the cast finally.
They let her stay completely broken for way too much. @LordloshBang I can agree, on that, high ground is key and horizon has it easily accsesible maybe, make the lift go lower than it currently goes currently? Im just spitballing here, but I think something to make the high so much harder to obtain to would be amazing, as for the strafe, i think make the strafe have a shorter length, so you cant bounce around without being touched.
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