@alexi507 try dodging 3 ppl that valk ult/jumppad on you + jumptowers +horizon lift/path grapple. pk is 2 shot in the body (only 2 pellets have to hit the head) if you dont hit a headshot you still have 3 shots left
lets do a little mind experiment here :
imagine there are 2 people looking at you they both got the same gun and they are 5 meters away from you!
what are the fastest ways you could die?
shotguns and sniper rifles they 2 tap in the head and 3 tap in the body
but what potential do you have without attachments?
pk 9-121 5shots
mastiff 10- 112 6shots
eva 7- 99 8shots
sentinel 70-160 4shots
longbow 55 -130 6shots
charge rifle 3- 120 4shots
and now imagine beeing slightly of target
sniper: you miss
shotgun: still a good 30 to 80 damage
but how many shots will it take if you are god himself(you only hit headshots):
pk 40%
mastiff 33%
eva 38%
sentinel 50%
longbow 33%
charge rifle 50%
thats the ammount of shots you have to hit out of one mag to down 1 person
again what happens if your aim isnt perfect?
you miss!
but with shotguns you still get a good 30 to 70 hit even when you are 15m away
have you ever seen an actual pro player prefering a sniper over a shotgun?
yeah shot guns one shot in real life but i have never seen anybody tank a pistol bullet in the head and be like yeah i could totaly take 7 more without a headache
yet here we are in apex where you take 2 shotgun shots
or 9 p2020 headshots?
like i could write a whole book about this *
@alexi507 but sniping takes considerably more skill. you need to lead your shots and account for bullet drop. shotguns make the game play like a point an click adventure. sg and smg schould both be good at close range(as well as pistols).
also its way easier to miss a sniper shot if you 'miss' with a shotgun you still deal 40 damage because of the spread. 100 m you say? octane and pathfinder dont care they side step a little bit until you wiffed a few shots than grapple/jp on you and give you the pk/eva experience. you can always take cover from a sniper but if your enemy has a shotgun at close range the fight is very likely to to end soon.
@Mortal-san Shotguns may be a problem but that's hard to take seriously in such a biased argument.
Nowadays every fight involves a shotgun. How? For some (not so) unknown reason 1 squad jumps to thirdparty and kill everyone with minimal damage with a goddamn shotgun. This is how devs force us to use these damn weapons. You just simply can't win a game without using shotguns. HOW IS THAT NOT BIASED????????? ANY DEV CARE TO EXPLAIN THIS TO US?
Community ManagerWell looks like this very active thread don't catch the attention of the devs, so any working ideas on how to get them to even consider reading these threads?
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