Increased ring damage ruining Apex
So I wrote about this same subject in the elite mode and now I have to bring it up regarding normal Apex. In my opinion the increased ring damage is ruining the game, it is certainly spoiling my expe...
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I don't think the problem is so much the ring damage but the rate at which you're ushered into a certain spot on the map. I think the round 1 ring needs to be bigger, and the time between the rounds needs to be slightly longer, to allow people the time to have a fight and get some loot before having to move on.
@Cabowse I see what you're saying and I agree that could be helpful in certain specific situations. However I also feel that you can literally run into another team at any time and if the ring is coming in you either have to run away or risk everyone dying. I can still envisage many situations where just increasing the time wouldn't make a huge difference,
For me the ring damage is the entire problem. Literally the last game I played yesterday we lost because we got into fight with last team as ring was coming in and one of their team-members simply ran away from the combat and managed to stay in the ring, the rest of us who were fighting all died cos of the upped ring damage... I agree later rings should hurt more, but the increased damage now goes right through to the end making later rings almost instantly fatal.(this was 2-3 rings from final ring still as well)
Once again, do we want Apex to be a game which rewards * who run away from fights and campers the most? Cos that is what is happening again and again. It's really frustrating.
If people want to argue that you have to keep the rankings pure as the driven snow so even the slightest hint of camping should not be tolerated... fine, I don't care... but for god's sake please put unranked ring damage back how it was and stop spoiling the fun aspects of the game for everyone.
- @kartikins Didn’t realise they’d done it to unranked aswell that’s ridiculous. Definitely needs adjusting on ranked to find some kind of happy medium between op and pointless , but unranked may aswell have just been left alone at its original state.
Even in ranked mode I think it is a bad solution to the "problem"... any system which discourages or penalizes players from fighting and encourages them to camp/hide and wait for the ring to take out half the server is antithetical to the spirit of the game imo. But in unranked making upping the damage seems crazy, it literally makes the game less fun and more frustrating for no objective reason.
I do understand some players getting their panties in a bunch cos maybe the odd team gain ranking by trying to hide outside the ring... but I still think there are way better solutions to the problem. Keep the damage as it was before if you are involved in combat or have been involved in the last 30 seconds,.. and for players who are not in combat, so long as they keep moving at a certain average speed towards the play zone (basically so long as they are running in a direct line to the zone more or less) keep the damage low. If none of those conditions are met THEN you apply the increased the damage and the longer they are outside the ring the higher the damage gets.
Implementing this would be more complicated than simply upping the ring damage (and I suspect EA are making Respawn work with very limited resources) but it wouldn't be that hard to do either, and would be a much better solution.... stopping players from farting about outside the ring doing nothing and looting, whilst not penalizing those who get into a fight, loot the dead team and then head straight for the next zone. Most of the mechanisms are already in the game for this, and you would simply need to create a formula which monitors the players position in relation to the next zone and applies damage based upon how that position changes.
Yeah I totally agree with the negative effect it’s having on playstyles and the limitations it has on combat but I still stick by the fact that late ring damage should stay high , but LATE only.
And another far far easier solution would be to uncap points rewarded for kills and lower points rewarded for team survival placement (also have a think about rewarding assist points as kill stealing is kinda annoying now) , aswell as reverting the ring back to its original state of course .
If there’s more incentive to fight over camp then surely people will do so.
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