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3 years ago

Leaver problem(suddenly!) persists

Have to start my post with appeal to impatient players which won't read even half of OP and will only write something like "i don't want to play with bad team". And, what an irony, i'll reply with th...

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reconzero

Seasoned Ace

3 years ago

@aim_with_my_eye

I feel like there are a couple of factors at work here, but the biggest one by far is the age of the game. Older games often have a quitting problem that borders on "crippling," and Apex is no different. The older the game gets the more the novelty has worn off, the more players have a very specific idea in mind of what they want out of a match, the less patient players get with the things they think are wrong with the game and that they perceive as harming their experience... then the less willing they will be to consider whether or not their own behavior is harming someone else's experience.

I'm sure Respawn could try something along the lines of what you're suggesting, but I'm also sure that every time a game gets more draconian with penalties then the more players will just leave the game for good. But even if it only results in them playing less then Respawn still loses. And as the population thins then so many of the problems that drive quitting now (I'm thinking specifically of compromised matchmaking) get even worse. I'm not saying that the game would experience a "death spiral" but I will say that if you try to pit "the serious solo queue player" against "the EA shareholder" that the EA shareholder will win. Respawn's response, though they would never say it out loud, is that your grievance is most appropriately remedied by playing with a pre-made squad instead of randoms.

aim_with_my_eye

3 years ago

@reconzero
One way - players will leave because of "draconian penalties"(but why don't they, just like you said, play premade to not expirience those penalties? I think i know the answer - this part of playerbase are too toxic to get along a prem of their skill level and too bad for prem matching their demands).

Another way - players will leave because of all other known problems plus leaver problem like the final touch.
This reminds me russian joke about two chairs there, but for now EA is already occupied both. Some day they'll have to decide, what part of community is fewer and less valuable(since all that matter for them is money).