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Vscoboii9644's avatar
5 years ago

loba buff ideas

I have some thoughts on some loba buffs that could happen and be simple 

- her tactical cool-down will be reduced to 25 secs and have to charges when one charge is used it will take 15 secs to throw again and if the two charges are used theres gonna be the 25 second cool-down

- her ultimate range further expanded and more items can be taken 

- her tactical sound should be reduced by 25% and range should be extended by ten metres so 88 metre max throw distance and be 10 mentres higher so she can get on top of buildings easier

- and theres should be a new passive for rev, Loba and crypto since all of them are sneaky rev is a sneaky assasin loba is a professional thief while crypto is a hacker

so all of them should get a stealth passive where there footsteps are still able to be heard but more quite and leave no marks and cannot be scanned and immune to digi threats 

- or lobas tactical will have a less visible trail and less sound and the throw speed is faster 

- or just a faster throw speed

- loba should not be vulnerable when throwing her bracelet 

- when teammates want attachments, hop-ups, ammo, gear etc.  loba can accept there request and see if there is that item nearby with her passive to be more useful with quicker looting

- loba tactical should be 25% when thrown

if you have any suggestions leave them underneath this 🙂 

10 Replies

  • EA_Kent's avatar
    EA_Kent
    Icon for Community Manager rankCommunity Manager
    5 years ago

    Hey @Vscoboii9644,

    Thanks for taking the time to write this up. I just wanted to give you a heads-up that I moved your thread over to the Legends Feedback board. 

    /Kent

  • I really like the LOBA gameplay so far and the buff recently received in the latest patch was very well accepted by most of the community.

    But like me, most of the community might agree that compared to the others Legends, LOBA is actually the least picked legend due to her abilities... I'm not saying that changing all the abilities is something that needs to be done, because I've been playing with LOBA and she's my favorite legend so far, but since she feels like a hybrid of pathfinder and lifeline I feel she needs more "prominence" in her abilities.

    This thread suggested a buff much like Revenant, by adding another jump to the cool downs which could be very smart since she's a support, that could make the recovery of a banner much more viable...

    I also like the idea of increasing the distance of the jump, I feel like pathfinders can cover much more distance with one jump compared to LOBA. And let's remember that the jump is meant to reach high grounds to provide cover for teammates.

    I don't think that increasing even more the range of the ultra is needed, it'll be too op... But I do think that the sound of the ultra + sound of bracelet need to be lowered down. They're Way to loud right now and more than helping a team like a support would do it puts the whole friendly team in a disadvantage by revealing everyone about they're location.

    I don't think that Black Market should be this penalized since we know that bloodhounds have received a major buff as well recently making them way too viable to pick, so makinf other Legend's abilities a bit more quiet might help 

  • @Vscoboii9644 The new passive idea doesn't make much sense, because its a hard counter to bloodhound and crypto, and it would make revenants current passive pointless because he already has fast crouch walking.
  • Loba's Q ability is definitely underperforming, being able to move while in her Q animation and while bracelet is flying would help massively avoiding damage during this period.

    This of course comes down to the fact that loba have to look where she is throwing the bracelet, so she is not able to do absolutely nothing else. 

    If loba had option to drop her bracelet somewhere pre-emptively and then activate it would be pretty op tho 🙂  ) ) )) 

  • You basically said everything I said in my thread before, so just to expand on it, below is a copy-paste of what I said.

    Main issues:

    Loba - Underwhelming in general, every single part of her kit is off-combat, the hitbox is broken.

    My solutions for Loba:

    - General - FIx her hitbox.

    - Passive - Rework it into "Thief's Intuition", on top of the current ability to see leggy and epic loot through walls, whenever you or a teammate requests an item, Loba will get to choose whether she will help in finding that item, just like Wraith can choose to warn teammates, if Loba decides to help she will start seeing the requested item type through walls regardless of its rarity, the effect will last for like 60s or until the teammate picks up the needed item, Loba can help to find only 1 item type at the time, this means if another teammate requests something and Loba decides to help, she will stop seeing the previous item type. The range and duration numbers are up to debate. Perhaps letting her see medkits and shield batteries through walls at all times would work too since ya know, she is a support.

    - Tactical - The way to buff this ability depends on what devs want, if they want it to be an off-combat mobility tool, right now what it needs the most is a speed increase of legit anything, the initial cast, projectile, post-teleport delay, Loba's own movement when the bracelet is flying through the air, all of this could be sped up. Increasing its range would be a huge plus too, the arc at which it travels is very weird, you can't get into spots you'd think Loba would have no problem getting into. I'd say make the arc more straight so it's better both horizontally and vertically if aimed upwards.

    However, if you ask me, I think completely removing any action restriction from Loba after throwing the bracelet is a way to go, considering its long cast, post-tp delay, high volume and visibility using it mid-combat would still require lots of thinking, Pathfinder can use weapons as soon as he finishes the grapple and is still flying in the air, so why not let Loba run and shoot when using the bracelet? To make it even more fun, let Loba delay the teleport for up to like 3s after the bracelet lands if she wants to, that way you can bamboozle enemies more efficiently.

    If Loba decides to revive a teammate or do a finisher after throwing the bracelet, the teleport would be automatically delayed until it's finished even if the bracelet touches the ground before.

    Also, fix its bugs as it still sometimes refuses to work on World's Edge.

    - Ultimate - Perhaps the most underwhelming part of her kit, it has lots of space for buffs, popular ideas are to increase its range and let it grab banners, also pinging something in the market should ping the item in its current location. Those are for sure great changes, on top of that I suggest an additional item pickup slot specifically for consumables and ammo, reducing the visual and sound effects when it's deployed are worth considering too as giving away your squad's position every 90 seconds is not particularly a good trade-off for what the ult offers.

  • 031567's avatar
    031567
    5 years ago

    Okay Since Loba is being buffed Season 7 I can suggest one thing and I agree with multiple charges.

    -Three Charges

    -Press for a quick frisbee throw, but is short distance

    -Hold Tactical to use all three charges for the current default throw for long distance

    This allows Loba to have quick teleportation of short distance without long cooldowns. Kind of like in the Season 5 trailers

  • I dont know if you guys have experienced this too but, in worlds edge and some kings canyon buildings loba cant throw her braclet through the window. Now the amount of times i saved my self doing that, was straight from a movie 🙂 but now that doesn’t work ☹️ another thing LOBA HAS NOT APPEARED IN THE TRAILERS the only time she appears is when shes being killed. Okay thats about it and her braclet is still kind of buggy it comes back to me like 2/10 times which completely kills my mood, okay bye.

  • misteripro's avatar
    misteripro
    5 years ago

    The ONLY thing you need to fix is her damned bracelet!!! If it lands on any surface a legend can stand on, u should be able to teleport. I have been killed sooooooooo many times by backfiring bracelets while escaping....sigh...

  • matzesingt's avatar
    matzesingt
    5 years ago

    @misteriproas long as they dont fix her hitbox she will stay trashtier, they can buff her abilities as much as they want... as long as she is at a huge disadvantage in every duel she takes, she will not be in a good shape

    Currently her Hitbox is so insanely * up, just go to shootingrange with a friend  and shoot him, you willrealise that her hitbox is almost twice as big as her actual model... Meaning she has a similar hitboxsize like caustic/gibby...imagine you can aim pretty far next to loba and you still get hitregs, her hitbox is a disgrace to the game and shows serious incompetence

    In the end Apex is a shooter and it comes down to killing the enemy