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@Sir_Named wrote:
@LordloshBangThose distances really aren’t that far. 40 damage per shot isn’t really enough, mainly because something like the R-99 will kill faster at that range.
These ranges really aren’t that far away, definitely not 50 meters in most cases. These are still fairly close.
Besides, if you want the shotguns to not be viable at all at that range, at what range would you prefer them to be viable? Extremely close range? If the shotguns require you to be super close, then people won’t use them as much, since guns like the R-301 just have more versatility in every scenario.
The range of the pellets isn’t that big.
In the 2:00 clip, it seems like the Loba isn’t behind the door at all, but it’s a little hard to tell. I think at the moment he fired, she was halfway, but once the pellets traveled, she was outside. Also, that’s not a big distance. It’s not even mid range.
2:55 clip, yeah, kind of. That’s really not that far. Do you want it to be even closer range than that?
5.04 clip, that’s literally actual close range. Should the shotgun not dominate in that close of a range?
You do have to aim with it.
They are not fairly close. We are talking nonseses now. This should not be a Shotgun range, you know? You aren`t going to do even 8 damage with Eva8 in that range. And with R99 you actually have to aim, not put a 5cm crasshair from your Mastiff on the target and spam it.
And Gibraltar was eating solid damage from a range, that should not hit for more than 10 hp with a shootgun.
The picture i showed its probably for around 35-50 meters. Yet it hit semi-half of its shot for 52 damage ....
2:00 yeah it could be server lag, but this is a distance. Look how easy is to down an enemy with a shotgun, and you can`t react to it. Its dumb.
2:55 its a complete joke, its not that far, but its 1 shot you for 98 damage .... Comments are not needed there. You should not do that kind of damage with any weapon, unless its a care package, and this is not that kind of a close you know.
For a 5:04 i`m not talking about the range, but the damage and how OP shotguns and mostly Mastiff is inisde a building. Few seconds later he one shooted 1 more player.
You shouldn`t be able to snipe people like that. Shootgun is suppose to be a finishing weapons. Not a 1 shot 100 damage kill.
Right now Mastiff is a must. Its way better than an Eva8.
Its OP. Its way stronger than it should be.
And it should not work on the range its working.
It should be close range only.
You are talking about R301, but right now R99/Wingman and a Mastiff is a must every game otherwise you are playing in a disadvantage.
- LordloshBang6 years agoNot applicable
We are talking about the Mastiff, not the R99.
- xx_Dante2k_xx6 years agoNot applicable@LordloshBang And I'm pointing out that the R99 is more OP than the Mastiff. Watch the video back taking note of the R99 damage etc, its toxic.
The R99 shouldn't be doing AR damage at medium range, its an smg.
The Mastiff is good imo, maybe a bit too good but you have to be close or your getting very inconsistent damage.
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