Matchmaking is broken!
So I play with two of my friends and we play mostly Pubs. We are gold level players. Never climbed above gold 1. And yet, in pubs, we keep betting annihilated by players with 4k, Master/Predator ...
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Just today I played against people that had: 33,000 kills, 11,000 kills, 20,000 kills... In public matchmaking!
How me and my Noob-Team(tm) can ever compete with that. Mind You that very often I am matched with people that do not understand pings and when I ping better armor they just ignore it and run around with white armor! It's impossible to go against such good players that have put hundreds of hours into the game.
It's like putting a bully into the kindergarten and call it "fun" or "engaging".
This is just an example of one of many such lobbies. Usually most of the times there is at least one 11k player in it that clears at least 8-12 players. "FUN".
@PsyhiX69 I'm having similar lobbies. My start of season 11 was excellent and I won 2 out of my first 3 games, giving me a k/d of 13. Now the game thinks I'm the warlord himself and I'm stuck in premade sweat lobbies... and now that my k/d is back around 1, I hope I'll get a break again.
@Solim66 / @PsyhiX69 to be fair - you can't expect to win every game or even have a fighting chance.
BR and such lobbies should be approached from a bit more humble perspective. Either:
a) ok I will give it my best shot, let's see how I compare vs such players - to be honest the number of games means nothing so do those old season Predator badges, no one decent enough now is not scared of oldtimers who used to be good or got the badge when there were 3000+ preds.
b) evaluate the situation that ok there is a crazy squad in the lobby = so all fights you take should be in 3rd party format, even those crazy ppl do lose 3rd party fights more often than not.
c) try to play more passive, disengage if you start seeing that someone is just frying you, let other squads - potentialy as good as this in the screenshot - take out one another.
Otherwise you are saying that these squads are bullies at the same time you want to be that bully and win every lobby yourself = kinda not fair 🙂
Say they actually made it be "skill base matchmaking", all the smurphs and cheaters would just throw off the calculations and it be the same thing regardless. Besides, as mention, they rather have streamers be in lobbies where they can dunk on everyone.
I remember back in like season 8, Rouge got put into my match, and he killed like half the lobby as an octane. I went "wait, is that really him?", went to Twitch, watching him indeed play that match, while complaining about cheaters and Hideouts. Every single player he came across had virtually no skill and my "skill", (if you can even call it that), was off that day too.
So yeah, their "Skill Base Matchmaking" is only meant to cater to streamers. Everyone else pretty much have to deal with it. Pretty sure you'll get the same lobbies even on a new account.
Edited: To further show how unbalanced it is, you don't even see player's rank in Arenas. I've clicked on people's icons after the match to look at their profiles, and while I was Plat III in Arenas Ranked, these people were Bronze to Gold players. Didn't realize the "skill gap" between bronze and plat were the same, even bronze and pred.
They need to stop doing this as well:@EREGDS @
No no no, you are missing the point
SBMM is supposedly a tool to match you with SIMILAR skilled players. If that's not happening then there is something wrong with it.
As things stand now, and looking at the proof others have posted on here, it's obvious that some people are put into lobbies where the skill gap is too big. And in which they simply do not belong.
That would be like placing a level 100 player against a level 5 player. The new player has no chance to win the encounter.
Games are unbalanced skill wise.
"to be fair - you can't expect to win every game or even have a fighting chance." - What do you mean by this? Of course you should expect to have a fair chance of winning. That's the point of sbmm. And no one is expecting to win every game, but a fair chance to compete would be nice. According to the reasoning behind your statement it's OK to just be a free kill to far better players but not ok to be dissatisfied because it happens all too often. It shouldn't happen at all actually if sbmm worked correctly.
- @Sand_spitter as I see it SBMM works something like this:
Say we have 2 servers and 150 players online at a time.
SBMM takes all 150 players and rank them from 1 to 150 "place/rank", and then just puts first more similarly skilled 60 into server 1 and next 60 into server 2 and then leaves 30 people waiting, can be either case the most skilled or least skilled ones.
Potentially there are some rules that if your skill gap is much higher than currently available players, maybe a waiting time of X minutes is applied, hoping that more skilled players will come online - explains why Diamond+ players usually wait quite some more to get into the game.
I guess we assume that "skill-based" equals "equally skill-based" which is not quite true, the same.
E.g. not skill based or differently named matchmaking would be ELO based or just first come first served based.
Honestly, as a new player, I feel a bigger gap in higher lobbies vs lower - I did not mind losing a lot while being <Gold, yet having no chance in Platinum (currently full of ex diamond+) is a bit frustrating.
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