Matchmaking its terrible

Matchmaking doesn't seem to be any good. Both of these players are randoms. Once you hit plat, you should only get gold, plat, and diamond teammates and go up against gold, plat, and diamond teams. Either Wraith glitched the rank system, or matchmaking just paired them up with Bloodhound who got paired up with me. Like, Bloodhound is the middle ranked player that can play with both me and Wraith, but me and Wraith can't play together if we were to actually squad up. We did win this match, and everyone else who was knocked down and killed by my team were gold or plat players. This is actually when I noticed Wraith was in silver, as I didn't pay attention to the legend screen. (How it shows the rank of you or your teammates and the rank of the knocked/killed player in the kill feed)

I don't really know how they would even fix this though.

@MagnumSkyWolf 

From a competitive point of view, I agree. Pubs in Apex is about the same level of seriousness and competitiveness as ARAM in League of legends. And I dont really play much other PvP FPS games tbh but all I can say is that its ofc a huge difference how you can and must design the matchmaking in a BR and the matchmaking in a 6v6, 5v5 or 1v1 game like Valorant, CSGO, Overwatch etc.

I guess it comes down to design choice rather than a malfunctioning matchmaking. Seems to me that Respawn simply choose to make the public matchmaking random which means that below average skilled players will be struggle and above average players will also be above average in their lobby thus being rewarded for their time and effort put into the game, which wouldnt be the case in a with stricter skill/elo matchmaking. 

Just my opinion but I actually prefer the current public matchmaking to a more strict SBMM. When I started to play with this game, I was on the receiving end of the matchmaking. I dropped, fought, died in Skulltown/Thunderdome so many times the first seasons and I lost more fights than I won but gradually, I became better and better which rewarded me by allowing me to have better and better games. I am now at a point where I can have decent games most of the times, regardless of my teammates.

Lol justt came out of losing 4 out of 5 matches in qualifying to ranked arenas. And i'm not a bad player, and this "not rigged" sysetm threw smurfs that were beating us with mozambiques... Don't even trying to hide that it's damn rigged. So much about not being rigged. Piece of crap...

Then with the same skills I switch servers, and magically we are winning games and I'm on the top of the damage and kills list...

@ctyf6rri93dm 

Seems like you dont understand the purpose of the placement matches if you argue that its rigged because you got stomped during the placement matches and then got started off in a low elo afterwards. That is pretty much how its supposed to work. Read the patch notes when ranked arena was released. It explains exactly why you "stomp or getting stomped". Also, ranked arena is bad. There arent enough player at all elo ranges playing that mode to make the individual mmr vs actual rank system work properly.

But whatever. If people think the game is rigged against them then I wont argue =) 

@r1ggedgame 

It has to do with:

a) the normal/bell player skill distribution

b) the mean/average of this distribution, which most likely is surprisingly low. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the average player is a <1 Kills/matches played player... Perhaps even closer to 0.5 than 1.

c) An unrealistic view how well you should perform in an average match if you are average skilled or perhaps even worse. What I mean is that if we hypothetically could create an infinitely strict SBMM, i.e  a lobby with 59 clones of yourself, and let you play a million matches, then everyones KD and winrate would be 1 and 5% respectively. This is what a infinitely "fair" matchmaking would feel like. 

Bottom line is that if you truly are way above the average in skill, you wont be bothered that much by your useless teammates, because as long as you mind your own business and focus on your own game play (which is exaclty what high elo streamers like Aceu and Ittztimmy do), then you will win much more than you will lose since the average enemy teammate is as bad as your average teammate. But if you find yourself always getting "bad teammates" and you cant handle that, then you probably are pretty close to average skilled as well but you wont admit that and start to blame on rigged matches. Because thats the point here; a squad of 3 average skilled player wont have a banger of a game that often, simply because THEY ARE AVERAGE in the matchmaking =) Hypothetcally, they should consider a 3 kills (1 K/D each) match an OK outcome. But it seems like every single hardstuck Plat4 player here think that the matchmaking is rigged because they cant get 10 kills games that often.

@Balladalidiladude, i say complete noobs , not under-average players ... 100 times in a row ... no bell curve can explain that !
like ppl that stand in front of a loot box for 5 minutes and choose what to take.

@r1ggedgame 

100 times in a row.. Well I guess you are the victim here then. I am just happy that I am not targeted by this rigged system.  

But anyhow; I dont think anything I can write can convince you and nothing can say will convince me. I play only pubs in randoms and I manage to keep my Kills per matches played around 2.7 atm even if my teammates usually have less dmg than me combined.  Perhaps the system selected me to not be rigged against. I guess I am just lucky then haha. But it seems to me that this rigged theory usually comes from low to mid elo players and what they really are saying is that they are angry that they are just that; low to mid elo and therefore will have bad games most of the time, which makes perfectly sense in this  RANDOM matchmaking system=)

But whatever; if you feel that the system is rigged against you then I can just say sorry to hear that.