MOUSE AND KEYBOARD FOR CONSOLE/CROSSPLAY
I wish EA would add M&K support for consoles when crossplay finally comes out. Console players should not have to invite a PC player on their squad just to turn on crossplay. Console players should ...
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@spyderjego
I'd vote for mouse & keyboard on consoles. I'm not sure why Respawn keeps taking every idea from COD, but not the ones that make COD so much better. If some don't know, COD fully supports mouse & keyboard on both consoles already, plug in your device and good to go.
Also, don't let others confuse you. Mouse & keyboard is not OP over a controller. There are pros to both devices, but mouse & keybaord will takes years to learn them. Most people worried about mouse & keybaord don't know what the hell their talking about.
@Popa2caps If they add keyboard support back to consoles then it will just be full of players exploiting again with cheats etc. Once they took this feature off console it reduced the amount of cheaters heavily, this is why I fully support it staying off console.
@MoNosDirtyGaming
I don't recall consoles ever having the ability in Apex Legends, You by chance confused with a different title? I'm talking about native support, not 3rd party cronusmax.
I wish they could stop from using the 3rd party devices like cronusmax, but there is no way to tell when someone is using it. The system just signs it as a controller. Also these devices should work on the newest consoles as well. We're stuck with people on consoles using scripts tell someone like Microsoft and/ or Sony does something about it.
For native support for mouse and keyboard, I don't mind it at all. I play Warzone and don't think much of it, and most are PC players with them. Also in COD native support still shows that more people tend to use the controller for the added aim assist. Mouse & keyboard is not OP, it's only people who learn to use them well, and let's be honest, most suck with them.- @Popa2caps On ps4 players were using a strike pack to increase their speed of shooting; it also had the ability to remove recoil completely and other things. (yes this was a third party plugin which ruined apex on console) Plugged in via a USB cable to the console and Apex could tell no difference. This specific item was and most likely still is available in retailers like walmart in the US.
The devices will not work on next-gen console unless they update their software; this is also why nobody knows what external hard drives are to be purchased for next-gen consoles until testing is complete.
I have to disagree due to knowing that you have your entire arm and a bunch of extra keys, macro's included and being able to rebind controls to fit your preference.
I don't think most PC players suck but I have realised that close range combat is very awkward on PC when playing. It will definitely give controller players a new perspective when fighting close range as the fights are a lot more interesting, it's crazy how good some players are at dodging bullets and doing acrobatic movements right in front of your face lol@MoNosDirtyGaming
I played Apex on PC and consoles (year on PC) and weeks one consoles. The mouse might be good at aim, but doesn't mean most people are good while using it.The keyboard is the bottleneck (my opinion).
Everyone has no fine movement at all (WASD) on PC, you're always moving at set steps with the keyboard. Some do have analog movement, but it's rare on keyboards.Also don't forget that controllers do have better recoil handling. The data from the analog is constant, a mouse needs to be moved in that direction the entire time.
If companies would spend the same like logitech does on making the mouse better, controllers would be amazing. I bought my mouse in 2013, Logitech G502, works fine. There is pros and * to both devices. Also I can't compare the two devices as most game developers gimp the controller from the start in each game.
Apex Legends, can't loot while moving? Then the levels of aim assist companies feel necceasary, just because they don't want to put the time in on making the controls feel better without it.Microsoft / Sony both make controllers cheap for a reason, it makes the a ton of profit. It's mostly because they cheap out on the analog sticks themself. It's 40cents to fix an analog, but most just buy a new controller.
There is the Logitech owned company Astro that makes the C40 TR. It has removable analog sticks, but still they charge $20 lol.So i'm not one to say one is better then the other. In my eyes, it's myth. I played with both very heavly. It is very hard to use mouse and keyboard, but so is controller sometimes.
Also I use a Razer Wolverine Ultimate controller. I never take my thumbs off my right analog stick, because I don't need to. The keyboard I own is a bloddy gaming 9564 I think. Has the gaming bla bla RGB with fancy digital switchs, Still like my controller more. With and without aim assist.
I actually find it wrong for console users to play against console users using mouse and keyboard. Just like on pc where things will be manipulated to give a player a edge over another. M/K movement is completely different from controller. So for console users to use this means you are giving yourself a advantage over fellow console users. While you see it as harmless those on console who cant move as you do or even stand a chance is harmful. Thats just my 2 cents.
As far as i can tell console players dont get advantages over others as its strict controller verse controller. This is most fair gameplay one could ever ask for. You know how bad id wish pc was against pc users only? Not these 3rd party players using Strike packs - Xim and more. With these 2 = a aim assist from hell and back. These 3rd party plug in devices allow you to trick the pc into thinking that the controller is the main source of the pc in mouse movement. So whats this add? Aim assist to mouse and keyboard. Also plug in the recoil macros that are normally on xim web sites openly gave these 2 together = 100% unfair game play on PC. You be best to never want to try Pc unless you care to play with others who manipulate the games mechanics and nothing happening to them whats so ever.
Honestly buddy I've played on PC with my girl and it wasn't that much different but I didn't really enjoy it on PC due to the movement system from controller not being as smooth as it is on console. Maybe we can both agree that since Respawn agree that M&K don't belong on consoles, then maybe controller shouldn't be supported on PC? But it may also be too late for that as many players are already able to play via controller on PC already. There would be an outcry from pro players as they would be forced to move to a new system (console) and purchase new equipment to record (like an elgato if they don't already have one).
As far as i can tell console players dont get advantages over others as its strict controller verse controller.
As you suggested earlier, some players use a default PS4 controller (like myself) and others use a controller worth valuably more to gain the advantage of never having to use CLAW or having added buttons on the back, this does indeed give you an advantage over others unless you're very adjusted to using CLAW.
While you see it as harmless those on console who cant move as you do or even stand a chance is harmful
If we took your theory; then by that standard, since you stated that most M&K players are bad, and I know there are quite a bunch of pro PC players, wouldn't that also be classed as harmful? I do not think of it this way because for every single game you will find good and bad players. What Respawn need to do is start banning PC players who cheat with a harsh ban just like they did on PS4. When I play on PS4 it doesn't feel like anyone is cheating to kill me anymore; this hasn't happened since season 4-5, so they are definitely going thoroughly through everything to make sure that Apex is Cheater-free. However as consoles are rather limited; on PC you will always find a workaround for it, I believe this is the issue as to why players are more likely to be found cheating on PC.
- @MoNosDirtyGaming I am actually fully against controller players being on a pc platform. If they wanna plug their controller into a system to play then it should be the system the controller is design for consoles. I hate absolutely hate that i have to play against controller users on pc. It gives them a advantage. While some may say well we cant move to loot like you can. Which is worse though in the end? Having aim assist or hendered loot? Aim assist over does the loot mechanics by far.
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