NERF THE WINGMAN/PEACEKEEPER
Honestly, every fight early game or even in the late game, any time you get into a gun fight, and you don't have either one of these guns, you're very unlikely to win the battle. Nerf the peacekeeper...
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Lmao. Use those weapons when you find them then. Once Devs start buffing and nerfing things because of silly complaints thats when the game begins to unravel. Those weapons are completely fine. Focus on the weak weapons like the Mozambique and the P2020. I dont understand why people need to complain about weapons that do their job. Maybe Strengthen Shields, but even then I feel like the bigger issues are the bugs and game crashes rather than DMG output of certain weapons. The game plays beautifully until kids who have a few bad games want to post on the forums and complain. Get over it and get better, or dont play.
@BetOnBoogie wrote:Lmao. Use those weapons when you find them then. Once Devs start buffing and nerfing things because of silly complaints thats when the game begins to unravel. Those weapons are completely fine. Focus on the weak weapons like the Mozambique and the P2020. I dont understand why people need to complain about weapons that do their job. Maybe Strengthen Shields, but even then I feel like the bigger issues are the bugs and game crashes rather than DMG output of certain weapons. The game plays beautifully until kids who have a few bad games want to post on the forums and complain. Get over it and get better, or dont play.
I don't care how you shake it. The wingman is definitely to strong overall, early game, end game, attachments or not it's THE best overall weapon in the game. Spread/Spread recovery for successive shots is a joke on how little it is/how fast it recovers. If the wingman could have a 4x or 6x scope it would be the best sniper rifle by a super wide margin other than the capped headshot distance and bullet velocity even if you compare it to full lvl 3 attachments on the DMR. That being said it really would take only minor nerfs to the wingman to make it not ridiculously but still good.
Peacekeeper really needs that glitched fire rate fixed ASAP, and needs a slightly larger spread. Otherwise it's fine. Purple bolt upgrade might be to good in general but I don't feel like that's to much of a problem atm.
Mozambique and P2020 are definitely * and should be reworked or removed and replaced with better weapon spawns.
Only thing I will agree on is the Fire Rate Glitch with the Peacekeeper. The Wingman is beast and personally dont think it should be touched. There are plenty of them lying around to balance out the game. Just pick one up and hit your shots before they hit you.
@BetOnBoogie You're literally making our point. I don't know the exact number of guns in the game, but let's just say there's 15+. When your response to the idea that the gun isn't unbalanced because there are plenty of them on the field, and that you just have to pick them up is ignoring what we are saying.
The game isn't what we think is unbalanced, the gun is. When the only way to be balanced in a fight against someone using a wingman... is to pick up a wingman, there is a problem that needs to be addressed. Especially when there are 15+ other weapons that are available, but aren't relevant choices, because wingman.
@BetOnBoogie wrote:Only thing I will agree on is the Fire Rate Glitch with the Peacekeeper. The Wingman is beast and personally dont think it should be touched. There are plenty of them lying around to balance out the game. Just pick one up and hit your shots before they hit you.
Based on your posts you have no business talking weapon balance. The wingman is so OP even streamers are bored of it...which is honestly a shocking development.
so honestly stop posting nonsense and go abuse it more while you have time 😉
real gamers are getting bored of it.
If you shoot the wingman slower, it's not super op. If you spam it the fastest it can be spammed it's just hilarious. You have to duck for cover when you hear the handcannon pewpewpewpewpewpewpewpewpewpewpewpew, The longbow should be far more intimidating at range and the peacekeeper up close but they aren't, Handcannon is just the meta gun and it's antifun to have to use only 1 weapon. The Wingman has only strengths with no drawbacks: suppressing fire, ammo efficient, ttk, range, recoil, accuracy, hipfire accuracy, and reload speed. You can just spray the wingman, reload and keep shooting for as long as you have ammo, which will be a long time, where is the window of opportunity to fight back?
- I am not going to disagree with the idea that Crashes, bugs, hackers, and network lag aren't more important issues that should be addressed. That doesn't mean that the weapons simply aren't unbalanced, or that we still can't make a basic observation about them. I think most of us, are trying to offer our suggestions on how they could possibly fix them, or at least draw some attention to them, since clearly there is some kind of issue going on.
When most people in the game currently run with almost nothing but these two weapons, there is definitely something going on. I will even concede that maybe we don't know exactly why they are unbalanced, but there is definitely something going on that needs to be looked at more closely.
I've even always thought the best way to balance both the wingman, and the peacekeeper, are with very simple changes.
Wingman should have the extended mag attachment removed, and its ROF should be reduced a smigin. Keep its damage exactly where it is, and immediately we would see a huge difference in the gun.
The peacekeeper I think should honestly just have its ammo type changed to energy, and its spawn rate should match that of other energy weapons. Its mag size would equal about 60 rounds, each time it fires it consumes 10 rounds.
Change absolutely nothing else for the weapon, and I guarantee we would see a drastic reduction in people using it. It's still viable, but now you got to make that choice if it's going to be worth it or not, just like all the other energy weapons.
Other glitching/exploiting issues for the weapons should also obviously be taken care of, and I won't disagree that a few of the other weapons might need some slight buffs. I just feel that it might be prudent to wait for the more obvious changes required first, before we go messing with anything else.
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