NERF THE WINGMAN/PEACEKEEPER
Honestly, every fight early game or even in the late game, any time you get into a gun fight, and you don't have either one of these guns, you're very unlikely to win the battle. Nerf the peacekeeper...
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Only thing I will agree on is the Fire Rate Glitch with the Peacekeeper. The Wingman is beast and personally dont think it should be touched. There are plenty of them lying around to balance out the game. Just pick one up and hit your shots before they hit you.
@BetOnBoogie wrote:Only thing I will agree on is the Fire Rate Glitch with the Peacekeeper. The Wingman is beast and personally dont think it should be touched. There are plenty of them lying around to balance out the game. Just pick one up and hit your shots before they hit you.
Based on your posts you have no business talking weapon balance. The wingman is so OP even streamers are bored of it...which is honestly a shocking development.
so honestly stop posting nonsense and go abuse it more while you have time 😉
real gamers are getting bored of it.
If you shoot the wingman slower, it's not super op. If you spam it the fastest it can be spammed it's just hilarious. You have to duck for cover when you hear the handcannon pewpewpewpewpewpewpewpewpewpewpewpew, The longbow should be far more intimidating at range and the peacekeeper up close but they aren't, Handcannon is just the meta gun and it's antifun to have to use only 1 weapon. The Wingman has only strengths with no drawbacks: suppressing fire, ammo efficient, ttk, range, recoil, accuracy, hipfire accuracy, and reload speed. You can just spray the wingman, reload and keep shooting for as long as you have ammo, which will be a long time, where is the window of opportunity to fight back?
MechaDraco made the most sense. Most of you on this post seem to be complaining to complain like most people love to do with video games nowadays. What I am saying is this game is one of the most balanced and fun games that has been released in a long time. Anyone can literally hop on this game and be good and have fun. Why must you complain about weapons that do the ultimate job that needs to be done, which is eliminate your opponent? I can understand making these weapons less common, so that the reward of finding them is in your favor, but why * and moan because the guns wreck, when you can use it your damn self? Weapon dmg is not at all a major issue with this game unless you are discussing dmg, or the lack their of, with the Mozambique or P2020. My peeve is about complaints that are made by people that are just looking for something to complain about.
The true issue with the game are bugs, crashing, minor UI issues. Its not hard to kill people in this game with guns other than the Wingman and Peacekeeper. I have no problem running with R-301, R-99 (yes they need an extendo) G7 Hemlok etc.. I feel like a majority of people dont want to put in the work to figure out how to combat their own weakness, so they immediately jump to the conclusion that "(Insert Weapon) is OP". At the end of the day it will likely get nerfed because too many people have complained about it, so no need to get your panties in a bunch because you will ultimately get your way like the spoiled princesses you are.
End rant.
Kiss KissMechaDraco made the most sense. Most of you on this post seem to be complaining to complain like most people love to do with video games nowadays. What I am saying is this game is one of the most balanced and fun games that has been released in a long time. Anyone can literally hop on this game and be good and have fun. Why must you complain about weapons that do the ultimate job that needs to be done, which is eliminate your opponent? I can understand making these weapons less common, so that the reward of finding them is in your favor, but why b**** and moan because the guns wreck, when you can use it your damn self? Weapon dmg is not at all a major issue with this game unless you are discussing dmg, or the lack their of, with the Mozambique or P2020. My peeve is about complaints that are made by people that are just looking for something to complain about.
The true issue with the game are bugs, crashing, minor UI issues. Its not hard to kill people in this game with guns other than the Wingman and Peacekeeper. I have no problem running with R-301, R-99 (yes they need an extendo) G7 Hemlok etc.. I feel like a majority of people dont want to put in the work to figure out how to combat their own weakness, so they immediately jump to the conclusion that "(Insert Weapon) is OP". At the end of the day it will likely get nerfed because too many people have complained about it, so no need to get your panties in a bunch because you will ultimately get your way like the spoiled princesses you are.
End rant.
Kiss KissP.S. Real gamers figure out the game and adapt. They don't cry about the parts of the game that work well. *Shrug*
Hmm, after giving it a thought I came to the conclusion it should not be nerfed - it is an superior weapon that's for sure.
But instead of nerfing it for the reason it was designed to be would be counter-productive.
What should be done instead is it should be moved to only Epic/Legendary (High Tier) loot. And make it more rare to find like Kraber or Mastiff - each being a king of their category, why not have Wingman as one? And CAR as SMG king while we're at it.Could you be anymore self-righteous?
People can complain about weapon balance and design decisions, regardless of it is to good or to bad.
You're focusing on fixing the really bad *. Which I'll agree fixing bugs and crashes is far more important than weapon balance, but within the context of this thread weapon balance is the point of discussion NOT fixing crashes, the UI, and the only relevant bugs are the ones that affect weapon balance (Peacekeeper fast fire, Fast weapon switch, etc).
That doesn't mean the devs shouldn't fix the things that ARE to good. "Real Gamers" want to have a game where all weapons are viable when used in a certain way. The wingman has the problem of being the best or at worst 3rd best option for every relevant problem. That is just as bad of a game design as having a weapon that's the worst or 2nd worst option for basically every situation in the game Mozambique&P2020.
It's also not good game design to have a shotgun that it doesn't matter if you're crouched, sprinting, jumping or all 3 and you still have the same accuracy and spread that's capable of doing ~100dmg at ~25-35m without a precision choke or ~100dmg at ~50-60m with a precision choke at max precision (damage and range depends on how well placed the shot is and what legend you're shooting RIP Gibraltar). I doubt anyone is surprised a shotgun is really good at close quarters, I think people are surprised that the shotgun is still good at ranges that shotguns are normally outdone by SMGs and ARs in other games while also maintaining mobility when every other non shotgun has less precision and accuracy while moving/not using ADS (side note Mastiff and Mozambique have larger spread outside of ADS).
All weapons in the game are viable,. Some are just better than others. One person brought up the issue with sheilds, just as I did. Maybe it's not the gun's dmg output as much as it is the Sheilds/Clip size of certain weapons. Hence Peacekeeper and Wingman should be left alone IMO.
I was being self righteous towards the herb that made that "Real gamers" comment in the first place, however, I'm not sorry if you were offended.@Comanglia-ttv
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I just happen to think your opinion is wrong.
@BetOnBoogie wrote:MechaDraco made the most sense. Most of you on this post seem to be complaining to complain like most people love to do with video games nowadays. What I am saying is this game is one of the most balanced and fun games that has been released in a long time. Anyone can literally hop on this game and be good and have fun. Why must you complain about weapons that do the ultimate job that needs to be done, which is eliminate your opponent? I can understand making these weapons less common, so that the reward of finding them is in your favor, but why b**** and moan because the guns wreck, when you can use it your damn self? Weapon dmg is not at all a major issue with this game unless you are discussing dmg, or the lack their of, with the Mozambique or P2020. My peeve is about complaints that are made by people that are just looking for something to complain about.
The true issue with the game are bugs, crashing, minor UI issues. Its not hard to kill people in this game with guns other than the Wingman and Peacekeeper. I have no problem running with R-301, R-99 (yes they need an extendo) G7 Hemlok etc.. I feel like a majority of people dont want to put in the work to figure out how to combat their own weakness, so they immediately jump to the conclusion that "(Insert Weapon) is OP". At the end of the day it will likely get nerfed because too many people have complained about it, so no need to get your panties in a bunch because you will ultimately get your way like the spoiled princesses you are.
End rant.
Kiss KissP.S. Real gamers figure out the game and adapt. They don't cry about the parts of the game that work well. *Shrug*
No really stop posting and go back to fortnite.
guy playing wraith and spamming wingman is saying don’t complain about it. Lol the irony go away bro it’s op everyone knows it and trying to flip the script is pointless.
I dont play Fortnite and I play Multiple Character on Apex (Bloodhound, Wraith, Pathfinder, Caustic) all with 200+ kills. Let me guess you're going to cry about Wraith users next? Just play the damn game and stop whining.
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