Nerf Wingman plz!
Its impossible to play against that weapon!!! Its better than a sniper, than smgs, shotguns what the hell....
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So me and a friend agree wingman needs a nerf and i can explain the reasons why and give a damage we agree upon :
• One second or no charge triple take does less damage then a wingman bodyshot ( 45)
• a wingman bodyshot is pretty close to longbow just 10 off which is insane since it isnt a sniper
• if you headshot ( 97) someone with wingman that is more damage then a charge rifle full beam to the body ( 90)
Soo its a heavy weapon which staggers you for a second and does pretty much sniper damage or more sniper damage which is pretty strong and if im not mistaken snipers are suppose to be the strongest in the game when that statement currently is false. In addition the gun basically is a mini sniper that has a slight better firerate and can stun enemies pretty strong and needs a tone down imo. So my request/suggest is nerf the damage to 40-35 a bodyshot that way its rewarding still to use but it doesnt overpower most snipers in the game currently.
Hope a Dev actually sees this and puts this into consideration , Thank you :D
@AceXSilver143 Triple Take does 69 body shot damage.
The Longbow is only 10 off because they recently nerfed it; it has the highest fire rate out of any sniper. The damage being close to the Wingman is offset by the fact that you can’t put a 3x on a Wingman and hit for 45 a bunch of times reliably from 100+ meters on a moving target. The advantage of the Longbow is being able to be further away. Same thing with the Charge Rifle you are simply not going to hit for 90 every time on a moving target unless they are barely moving, but you are also probably never going to hit Wingman headshots from the range that the Charge Rifle can deal damage consistently with scopes up to 8x.
At the Wingman’s optimal range you really need to be able to hit your shots or you will lose to a shotgun or other good CQ weapon. You are looking only at damage not at engagement range. The wingman is a high skill weapon because it can get more accurate damage at longer ranges (not sniper ranges) but in CQ you have to be able to hit your shots on strafing/jumping/sliding targets with R99/PK etc…it just isn’t fully comparable to a sniper.
People who choose sniper do so because they want long range options usually behind cover and/or at height, Wingman is a far more aggressive choice but riskier due to the fire rate and low mag size. Just my 2 cents having used the Wingman pretty well for several seasons.
The Longbow is only 10 off because they recently nerfed it; it has the highest fire rate out of any sniper. The damage being close to the Wingman is offset by the fact that you can’t put a 3x on a Wingman and hit for 45 a bunch of times reliably from 100+ meters on a moving target. The advantage of the Longbow is being able to be further away. Same thing with the Charge Rifle you are simply not going to hit for 90 every time on a moving target unless they are barely moving, but you are also probably never going to hit Wingman headshots from the range that the Charge Rifle can deal damage consistently with scopes up to 8x.
At the Wingman’s optimal range you really need to be able to hit your shots or you will lose to a shotgun or other good CQ weapon. You are looking only at damage not at engagement range. The wingman is a high skill weapon because it can get more accurate damage at longer ranges (not sniper ranges) but in CQ you have to be able to hit your shots on strafing/jumping/sliding targets with R99/PK etc…it just isn’t fully comparable to a sniper.
People who choose sniper do so because they want long range options usually behind cover and/or at height, Wingman is a far more aggressive choice but riskier due to the fire rate and low mag size. Just my 2 cents having used the Wingman pretty well for several seasons.
I know the triple take does 69 dmg but if u read what i said i mentioned it not fully charged on purpose. My point with the longbow was its basically a longbow in pistol damage alone in damage nerfs or not. Personally i have hit 90s on moving targets with charge rifle for me i can track targets decently well but yes u wont hit headshots constantly from range unless your a cheater but my point was why does it do more damage then most snipers i know some have been nerfed but snipers supposed to be the strongest imo. You say high skill but majority of wingman users i die to then spectate pretty spam shoot no flicking or tracking which is pretty frustrsting that i basically died to lucky bullets. Just feel it needs to have more skill so spam shooters dont get away with random kills.
Literally just got on here for this very reason. The wingman is absolutely broken. Make it a care package weapon, or nerf it into the <> ground! Whats the logic behind this overpowered handcannon??? Hell, we might as well just start giving our soldiers magnums, because obviously they do more damage than assault rifles. The current state of the game is absurd. It's all anyone ever uses in Arenas. If this is not patched in the next season, I'm done with Apex. It's not worth the frustration.
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9/10 people in arenas use wingman.
That alone should be an indication of how broken it is in mid and close range.
i cant hear this <> sound anymore.... this Weapon make me sick and i dont understand wth you didnt nerf or remove it faster from the game...
Wingman is the stupiest weapon in the game, much more than the ramp+thermite g......
balance your game, at the moment it is only crap!
in the last 3 hours i played , 90% i died from a player with a wingman...
+ in Apex are so many aimbot user they play with wingman so play your <> game by your self perhaps u get it by your own....
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The gun hip fire accuracy is insane. As a 4x master 4k its beating me in cqc enough times. It needs a nerf. Idk what nerf. A hip fire accuracy nerf for sure.
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