New season in Apex, map looks good but terrible new balance in game. I'm play bad and always play with masters and hi rank people. Cant make any kills, now my K/D in this season 0,70 what the world, so much smurfs and cheaters. EA just dont care they just need youre money. Hate new balance, hate cheaters and now hate apex. I will never donate in EA games

@Anubis_spirit995 Its super flooded with cheaters and most of the "smurfs" we see are just cheaters on new accounts.Recently Apex came to the Epic Games store, so players are hoping that it means EA would get some help from Epic. I hope that both companies would be able to put forth a better anti-cheat that would keep cheaters at bay.At this point, they might as well shadow banned cheaters to where they're in lobbies ONLY with other cheaters. Players who 6-12 man should also be put into this lobby since teaming is cheating. Basically, if you cheat in any way, exploit in any way, abuse bugs/glitches in anyway, use things like strikepacks, XIM, Chronus Zen, you're stuck in the cheater's lobby.The game should also not tell these players they're in another lobby, so for most of them, they wouldn't even know they got sent to another lobby so they wouldn't think to try bypassing, besides if they do, they'll end right back into the cheater only lobby after a few matches anyways.

Apex just now not playeble for people who play just for fun whit mid skils

@Anubis_spirit995 Its not really playable for anyone of any level to be honest. The game overall feels off, (sluggish even), and I think that's related to the servers and the game's engine being outdated.I wouldn't call myself a casual, or a try hard, sweat, (or even a pro) by any means, more so a competitive player. (I feel like I'm more in the center of the playerbase, (the center of "new player" and "ALGS Pro player")). I'm not sure about other players like me, but the game doesn't feel fun.The season is cool and I want to play more, but when my shots don't feel like they're connecting, when there's constant issues with the servers, cheaters, etc., it makes the game feel overwhelming. I've been getting off after 2-5 matches and I haven't even started ranked yet because of it.Right now, I don't see any point in getting stomped on by cheaters and unfair matchmaking. I've been doing that for 20 seasons now, and its not fun. (I know we're in S22, but S1 didn't have a ranked season, ranked was added in S2).I feel its important for the game to be given back to the players. The cheaters, (and smurfs/bots), have ruined the game long enough. The game is fun to play, and players want to keep playing it, but they don't see a reason to play in the game's current on-going state.

Haven't seen a single smurf in this game.

@Asmodeus566 About what? MONEY? How can you say that, seriously with all we see and the lack of, well everything (Comms especially)... seriously how can you say that with complete confidence? I feel just saying that in the face of complete ignorance on this forum, nevermind everywhere else on the behalf of EA alone is a slap in the face.

New season 22 / terrible balance / more cheaters / more smurfs

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ComicBookGuy2727
Seasoned Ace
12 months ago
Didn't Respawn say them selves that smurfing is basically aloud? I remember reading the post. Look, we all know numbers impress and keep stake/share holders happy, as it deceives the ignorant.
It just seems hopeless and pointless to tell ppl to report something Respawn Devs already made clear is fine. I've reported dozens and dozens of smurf accounts over the last 3-4 seasons, and I would still see them playing.
I would guess out of all the issues in regards to reporting - smurfing would be by far the easiest to detect. Really simple math here. Yet the smurfs continue to plague without fail.
Could you imagine the drop in the player base if every single smurf account was removed tomorrow! Guess that wouldn't be so good for business.
Anubis_spirit99
12 months ago
@AreYouShivering Yep they give ban for that my friend got banned for word {stupid} in text chat, what the word perfect freedom of speech! banned for nothing but no ban for cheats and softs. Greedy they have enough on their mind, only how to get more money from players.
reconzero
Seasoned Ace
12 months ago
@Asmodeus566

Hasn't Respawn officially stated that secondaries are not technically cheating, apparently depending on the intentions of the player? I clearly remember someone in an official capacity saying that a streamer setting up a secondary to do a rookie to predator run was A-OK. That attitude came as close as anything to driving me from the game, but then I had to remind myself that I just don't often see these people in my lobbies and how much do I really care if they foul things up for platinum and diamond players? Still, in principle it's wrong, and Respawn condoning it is even worse. A lot worse. Perfect example of the co-dependent, toxic relationship between dev and creators.
AreYouShivering
New Ace
12 months ago
Seems like Call of Duty anti-cheat and generally cheating approach is even worse. Imagine that.
ComicBookGuy2727
Seasoned Ace
12 months ago
@reconzero Yes you are absolutely right. I saw the Dev words with my own eyes. So all a smurf has to say is "I'm just doing the grind again." ( for the who knows how many times in a row) - and they are untouchable. Every smurfs grind is at the expense of players nowhere near their skill level.
I swear everytime I see some one say, "I'm getting destroy" / "I cant compete" et cetera as a new player - that is most likely one of the hundreds if not thousands of smurfs stomping their way throught for "the grind."
Nice work Respawn! : /
reconzero
Seasoned Ace
12 months ago
@ComicBookGuy2727

There was stretch in the last two or three years of Halo 3 where I bought my xbox live three months at a time and started on a new account each time. The matchmaking in that game was already not great, then the smurfing began in earnest after about the first year. After that it was all over but the crying. Since there was no "being part of the solution" as there was no solution, the only thing a sane man could do was become part of the problem. I'm telling you, in the run up to the launch of Reach there was no one left in H3 who was what their banner said they were.

And like Apex, that was no niche game with a small population, even after three years. It's sad and I really want to blame players for being adhd or just plain bad people, but the truth is that most of the blame has to be laid at the feet of the developers for their hideous matchmaking algorithms, and now, in the case of Apex, for their active support of streamers and pros, who, as always, make these problems worse merely by existing.
Midnight9746
Hero+
12 months ago
@ComicBookGuy2727
> "Didn't Respawn say them selves that smurfing is basically aloud?"

Basically yeah. The rule is that we're not allowed to "stomp on the lower skilled players".

In other words, as long as we're playing in the lobbies we're meant to be in, its fine. Although this doesn't make any sense to me because other games, (like Valorant), would ban you for doing this because it would be seen as a smurf account. Its strange that Apex allows alt/smurf accounts in the first place, (while also having a report option for reporting these accounts).
ComicBookGuy2727
Seasoned Ace
12 months ago
I never played halo online, only the campaigns - Halo 2 campaign being my favorite.
But I agree completely. The blame lays with the Devs and the terrible MM. I can't say myself that I haven't thought about it myself. But it just sucks and feels awful to get stomped while some guy who is 20 times my skill level is on his way through. I know I'll probably only meet them once on their way through... but then the rest keep coming lol.
ComicBookGuy2727
Seasoned Ace
12 months ago
@Midnight9746 I'm not talking about ranked either, I don't play ranked, only a couple times. These smurf accounts are all in pubs stomping everyone. Ranked I get the grind... I still don't agree with it. But Pubs... no way. Everyone on new accounts in pubs should be banned. IMHO
Midnight9746
Hero+
12 months ago
@ComicBookGuy2727 Correct, there can be a lower skilled player in any mode. My apologies, that's what I had meant.

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