I've played a lot of Pathfinder, hoping to make it work because I enjoy him thematically. Unfortunately, I just cannot justify playing him anymore. His passive is offensively useless and leaves your completely out in the open and vulnerable as you use it. His grapple needs to move him faster and more consistently "land" him in a spot - I get unintentionally slingshot all the time. A range indicator of sorts would be nice too. Now for his ultimate; it's just ineffective. It seldom connects to high-up spots and is frequently obstructed by terrain (trees, rocks, etc), knocking you off early. It's rarely useful for repositioning and hardly more useful for quickly traversing terrain than by foot. I've put the grapple to use reposition on top of buildings and ledges in firefights, but it's inconsitency is frustrating.

I recommend you look up Frothy's youtube guide on the grapple hook. You will see how dumbfoundingly WRONG you are. So many people say "This Legend Sucks!" When what they really mean is "I suck with this legend, and that's YOUR problem"

You are kidding right? He is currently like the number one flanker

I just don't agree at all. I can get at least 3-6 zip-lines per match, if not more. I get my team to high ground, to flank positions, to escape positions, to aggressively attack, etc. (Great example yesterday, my team versus 2 enemies across the water, on high ground. I hit them each once for 125 with Klaber sniper. I announced I hit them, placed zip line and told my team to push. Me and teammate rode zip-line in, finished them off, won match)I grapple to quickly loot places, to launch/slide myself further, to get out of danger or to close the gap on an enemy and PeaceKeep him down. Grapple has so many uses that anytime I am forced to play another character, I feel so slow and useless. His passive works best when you are playing as a team and brainstorming how to advance to the next circle and guessing the avenues of approach of your enemies. I NEVER worry about getting in the circle with Pathfinder, never worry about mobility and feel pretty confident fighting because I can outmaneuver quickly my opponents.

You guys can't be serious."offensively useless" is not a point, but i agree that it's quite weak when compared to other passives.But now, saying that grapple need range, or lower cooldown or saying that it's useless at a fight or that it need a range indicator or it "slingshots you" when you don't want it, it's assuming that you need to practice more, i've played almost only with him during the last two days and i ALWAYS knew when it would slingshot me and where to, because i'm used to the way physics work at games, also it saved me and my whole team many times, allowing me to reach for high ground and take out a whole squad one by one, also it's cooldown is just perfect the way it is, also if you don't know the range exactly you just need to throw until you reach target, it never killed me so far, so nothing to complain about it.His ult is very useful, just need to be creative, use it to have an escape route before engaging a squad, or to reach for a really high ground or for you enemies back side so you can attack the enemy squad from both sides, also his ult has the fastest recharge rate so it's more ultimate accelerants for your team, not to say that it's your best friend when reaching for the ring.

Agree completely. The concept behind him is good. Having a high mobility character who can support his teammates by giving them a way to travel large distances. It’s a cool concept, but the execution falls a little flat. The grapple ability needs more range than what it currently has, and needs to be a little faster, and his ultimate needs to offer a speed boost of some kind, it shouldn’t be just a generic zipline, as well as slightly larger range, only by a few meters.There’s basically no reason to play Pathfinder, since you can pretty much replace his role with Wraith. Flanking is easier with her vanish, instead of the grapple, and traveling large distances is much better since you can do it in under a second and without taking damage with her ultimate. Pathfinder just feels like Wraith Lite.

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33 Replies

Kuro466
7 years ago
i feel exactly the same way. I like his lore, but i'm struggling to find a role for him.
Because of his high mobility, he could be a good forward scout or sniper-support... staying a bit further away from team, but able to swoop in at any moment...
but for this to work, i feel like he needs:
1. a way to intentionally let go of his tactical tether. jump. slide. anything.
2. some kind of "damage reduction pose" while flying on ziplines, where he folds into a smaller hitbox shape (with no exposed head for headshots) and takes ~50% reduced damage... i would gladly give up the silly circle passive for this.
AyothaKAT
7 years ago
You are kidding right? He is currently like the number one flanker
xTak-0x
7 years ago
Agree completely. The concept behind him is good. Having a high mobility character who can support his teammates by giving them a way to travel large distances. It’s a cool concept, but the execution falls a little flat. The grapple ability needs more range than what it currently has, and needs to be a little faster, and his ultimate needs to offer a speed boost of some kind, it shouldn’t be just a generic zipline, as well as slightly larger range, only by a few meters.

There’s basically no reason to play Pathfinder, since you can pretty much replace his role with Wraith. Flanking is easier with her vanish, instead of the grapple, and traveling large distances is much better since you can do it in under a second and without taking damage with her ultimate. Pathfinder just feels like Wraith Lite.
MinhocaUhahaha
7 years ago
You guys can't be serious.
"offensively useless" is not a point, but i agree that it's quite weak when compared to other passives.
But now, saying that grapple need range, or lower cooldown or saying that it's useless at a fight or that it need a range indicator or it "slingshots you" when you don't want it, it's assuming that you need to practice more, i've played almost only with him during the last two days and i ALWAYS knew when it would slingshot me and where to, because i'm used to the way physics work at games, also it saved me and my whole team many times, allowing me to reach for high ground and take out a whole squad one by one, also it's cooldown is just perfect the way it is, also if you don't know the range exactly you just need to throw until you reach target, it never killed me so far, so nothing to complain about it.
His ult is very useful, just need to be creative, use it to have an escape route before engaging a squad, or to reach for a really high ground or for you enemies back side so you can attack the enemy squad from both sides, also his ult has the fastest recharge rate so it's more ultimate accelerants for your team, not to say that it's your best friend when reaching for the ring.
Kuro466
7 years ago
pathfinder does seem similar to wraith, but in a vastly inferior way.
tactical - both can be used to flank. pathfinder's tactical provides more options for moving fast and traversing terrain in unique ways, while wraith is hard to see and takes no dmg.
passive - wraith's is incredible. pathfinders is meh. This game is about aggressive skermish combat. Knowing the next circle is nice, but not amazing. I suppose if your goal is to be stealthy at getting into the final circle while avoiding combat it might help, but then you don't have the gear to win it. Moreso, this doesn't even feel like a passive, because the *only* time you can activate it is at a tower.
ult - wraith can portal out not only herself, but her entire team, along any arbitrary walkable path, and nobody can be shot during the traversal. pathfinder can make a zipline to advantageous high ground, but if you get on it in view of the enemy, good luck as they spray you down off the zipline. This is especially true if you are moving directly towards or away from them.
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I'd really like to see pathfinder get a better passive. the "next circle" discovery could stay (it's not really a passive anyhow), or it could go. i don't really care about it.
here are some ideas:
1. he could always see the next circle (without towers), and use towers to *change* the next circle location... this would make his passive more of a real passive that he benefits from all the time, not just when he goes to the towers
2. he could "fold up" to get dmg and hit box reduction while zipping on ziplines (and possibly during his tactical) -- which would fit well with his ult and lore of swooping in for the kill - pretty useful all game long
3. he could take damage form the zone at a lower rate -- he is a robot after all
Haxwell_Edison
7 years ago
I recommend you look up Frothy's youtube guide on the grapple hook. You will see how dumbfoundingly WRONG you are. So many people say "This Legend Sucks!" When what they really mean is "I suck with this legend, and that's YOUR problem"
TSF_VindictiV
7 years ago
Thing is, his grapple is so unreliably that in the thick of things, even if you're a veteran pathfinder you will sometimes fail it and die miserably lol
While his ult is nice, it's a big "HELLO GUYS WE ARE RIGHT HERE!" in late game. Also, late game there's extremely rarely a tower accessble and if it's accessible it's so easy to be sniped off of it as you're stuck in the lengthy animation. So yeah, late game he's litterally a one trick pony.
AyothaKAT
7 years ago
MOst ults should only be utility. Bang's and Gib's need to be delteted. This game does not need "press ult, win fights" ults, especially when the make crap like Caustic's "ult"
arslan_h7
7 years ago
All I want is his grappling hook to be more like titanfall 2 grappling hook then he'll be one of the best. Also there isn't really a way for new players to learn how to use him without a YouTube guide.
MinhocaUhahaha
7 years ago
Yes you can't use him without foloiwing an youtube guide, in fact idk how i could use him at all so far, i think it was all a dream