Problems With Vantage

Question

Vantage is fun to play as, but I've notice several issues with Vantage that's not fair. Some of these things have been in the game since her release, but the new marker that follows marked players makes her abilities more overpowered.

1) Ult Bullets are too wide. Below shows a dummy being aimed at. Roughly where I'm aiming, is where you can shoot and you'll still land a hit. This applies to every single legend you shoot at.

2) When aiming down sights, if the passive shows any armor icon and you ping, the game will automatically ping the EXACT location of the enemy player without you needing to look directly at them.

I was aiming at this door. When I pinged, it marked a player near the supply bin to the right around the rocks.

As you can see here, it did marked the enemy player, (who is pinged as a Loba):

3) When the passive is used to ping an enemy player, that player is marked for several seconds, (I counted 9 seconds). You'll see this ping icon move with the player and its even visible through walls.

Below, you can see that the Loba I had pinged with my passive ran behind the rocks. Its showing me exactly where they are behind the rocks.

krakadrak · Answer

this is the first time I've seen someone complain about a super situational, historically bad legend that has never once seen compeditive play

comicbookguy2727 · Answer

Awh the good ole Respawn wall hack and reveal meta. Gotta love it right!&nbsp;

zulkiers · Answer

@Midnight9746I don't know why you see that as a problem. It just means you need to fear vantage and not let her see you. Be sneaky. I slay Vantages all the time, even with these changes.I'm pretty sure it alerts you when you are tagged like that. Whenever I ping someone as Vantage, they always start running immediately afterward.

midnight9746 · Answer

@Zulkiers&nbsp;It only tells you that you've been tagged when hit with the ultimate. It doesn't tell you when Vantage had pinged you, (which is the ability that shows her the 9 second live update marker of your location).The ultimate itself has its own icon indicator, (which is an orange-ish circle that shows up around the player), but if the player runs behind a wall, its no longer visible unless the line of sight is regained and the tag is still active.The issue with her ability is that it makes her too strong. Other legends with strong kits got nerfs to help balance things out. I feel like Vantage is one of those who could do without the live ping update and pinging anyone on the screen without having to look at them at the very least.

zulkiers · Answer

@Midnight9746That ping is the only recon bit she has. Without it' she's not recon.Tactical is Skirmisher and Ultimate is Assault.The ping is her passive and is the only thing that makes her a recon.As for the tag, there's two notifiers.A) The glow and circle, and the overhead "Tagged by Vantage" to notify your location is revealed. That is her passive.B) At the bottom shows the increased damage taken debuff applied by her sniper, which also applies her passive Tag at the same time.I believe that is how it works now.I've been tagged without debuff or damage taken before. That means the passive now applies it on ping.BTW: You are unable to tag ping through windows. Tried that in mixtape.You must stop aiming and then ping enemy, otherwise it will utterly deny your ability to ping through the window.You can read their shield and number alive, but if through window you cannot ping at all while they are tracked like that, and must cease aiming to ping through the window.