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Re: Balancing of apex

my experience is that some of player skill and ignorance can not be matched and if Respawn actually tried to match some of the player base they should revert this game to ,, go around loot for 10 minutes and kill yourself after that,,  i have witnessed level 100 player with a devotion that shoots out 3 clips of ammo on a gibraltar and hits him once \

Balance for these type of players from my point of view is giving them a friendly advice to go do some practice or uninstall the game and play SIMS 

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  • E9ine_AC's avatar
    E9ine_AC
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    6 years ago

    Practice is key i agree. But how does one practice when he is heavily out matched? I can say some games im tossed in what i feel is my range of players skill levels. But then there we the fluke matches where even in ranked which apex staff can check my match history of just the champions of the match. They would see me with 100 kills is playing with and against those with 2k to 6k on some. Now i dont mind this but in reality they are only 2-3. How many more in the match that are not shown are much higher then me also? I know the get gud sloggan holds a place here. As ive said i am trying i play roughly 10-12 hour a day so i am trying but when someone says practice when its about 60/40 chance dropping hot you will die cause your team runs off scared or looting as you mention just to die. Yesterday was the worse with that people worried about looting while 2 of my team are engaging hostiles. I dont mind that even but when i can be easily head shot by people with 1-2 shots and kill me it gets boring and tiresome how people can instantly snap to head shots while running while sliding while jumping / blasting through the air. You would not think to see the skill type of launch pad trick head shots while in the air at the start of the game is all im saying. 

  • loads of programs to help your aim, training ground in apex also exists and FEEL THE PAIN that those that did all that for a while are giving to you. You think success comes easy ?

  • E9ine_AC's avatar
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    6 years ago

    Actually i have done the training grounds for over 4 hours total now. But in reality its not a good training grounds. It is shooting stand still objects with very slow moving objects. No where near real game play where i can better set controlls better for real game play. I am having to alter my settings while playing. Just to feel it out and see how fast i need to make my aiming movement my actual movement left to right etc. Is a lot more to it then just jumping in a dull tutorial that dont even let you test things on the character you mainly play. Dont let me as one persons opinion damper your day my friend. Simply giving my feedback being a game coder programmer and player of online games over 25 years. It is merely that my opinion and my feedback. 

  • I am giving you a feedback of someone that could not hit a tank if i was standing in front of it, and now is making 21 kills and 4530 dmg in one game. ME. Put MORE effort into it or go play SIMS 

  • E9ine_AC's avatar
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    6 years ago

    So hostile. This is whats wrong with a lot gaming communities while giving advice trying sound helpful you do so in most toxic form possible. 

  • I feel your pain, I suffered a severe brain injury 3 years ago in a brutal car accident. Video games were part of my recovery process. Hand eye coordination took a long time to come around. To this day I still struggle to "see" things others just see. 

    My advice would be focus more on your enviroment look for cover whenever possible. Play the smaller legends stay away from Gibby and Caustic. This will make it easier in open combat to dodge behind a tree. Take your time, and make sure to do what you can to support your team. One thing I have found handy is keep an inventory of nades. Lob em and lob em again. 

    As far as hostility take it with a grain of salt, it is easy to be aggressive and hostile in any internet based enviroment. 

    One other piece of advice follow your teammates ues in game, if they are engaging everyone they see then follow suit. If they are pinging enemies but not engaging do the same if the situation allows. I played a ton of random games in season 2 and the one thing that struck me was how many players ran the spectrum on engaging or not.

    As far as gunplay and getting used to it download titanfall 2 and play with the guns there in multiplayer or even game mode. These guns in Apex are just newer versions of those weapons.

  • @Sarrgeras I think you're missing Eeninee's point(s), probably intentionally. S/he is saying they think Apex should pair similar ability players together, and whatever metric EA uses to determine that ability is up to them and their coders. A simple K/D pairing might work, because leveling does not account for grinding. S/he is also probably experiencing a hack or two, judging from headshot damage while sliding or in the air, and there's not much anyone can do against blatant cheating. The ranked system in theory should create a sub-bracket for the top players to only face top players. "Load of programs to help your aim" - like what? You're saying there are Apex programs to help you play Apex? I don't think there are, but list them if so and thanks for sharing that with the community.
  • E9ine_AC's avatar
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    6 years ago

    With most games online ive played the skill level is nearly the same as you are. Sometimes those rare chances some one with a lot hours slide in. But as mention above there can be easy ways to match people with your skill level. Even in other games you have the chance to play with your friends if they are better and you just take the L to play with friends cause your now in matches greater then your skill level. Which is also 100% ok it helps improve ones game play. I am sure i have dealt with some cheaters using 3rd party giving the way i was killed. Very well may be chance it was legit why i never claimed people may be using 3rd party as i do see the flaws in their match making with compariable players. I have been doing ranked and am doing quite better with recoil now and such. But im still seeing me as octane with 66 kills brone I being paired with people with 1200 kills up to 600. I am sure this means they are just starting ranked them self but again points to the un fair advantage someone gains going into ranked to play a player they think is like them but ends up with or verse someone with over 100 hours in featured game modes or reg drop mode. 

  • E9ine_AC's avatar
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    6 years ago

    Also to add it is quite hard also to do regular game mode or the new shotgun mode cause you are indeed paired with times with or verse people with 10k kills up to ive seen 26k on my teams. So quite un fair the only shot we as new players have is ranked mode and if it cant be 100% fair where does the balance come in. At the moment its apex tossing everyone in a arena saying have fun dying or living, it is what this game is about but at same time some players are new. Verse making a balanced game mode players can play on. All i am asking is maybe check into a plugin that can check kill death ratio and pair those with their correct form. Even on ranked this can be applied to place people instantly in their correct ranking matches. Even if they are 1000 hours into apex it would place them with people in their kill death ratio till eventually once the new players are catching up to the kill death ratio it will then merge those players into 1. All is normal and fair at this point. I hardly ever play with the same players which also tells me there are a lot qued up very rare do i get same champ ive played with before so there is the player base for this to be done i believe. 

  • i have over 1000 hours into apex and i still get in match with people more writing on forums than trying to get better

  • I agree.  While I’m an experienced player - we are constantly bulldozed by teams with multiples 3000-10000 kill players.  It’s very frustrating no matter how much we practice - you can’t recreate the years of FPS playing these players clearly have.   My wish  is that the game would auto scale games to keep you within similar scale with the other players.  Let the 1000 plus players eat each other’s lunches.  Currently it’s like  putting a random crowd member on court one on one against Michael Jordan’s. Pointless. So give us some scaling Apex.  As it stands - I’m not expecting to play much more because 20 1 minute games in a row isn’t much fun.

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