Re: [Guide] How to report users and cheaters

I recently reported a path aimbotting using a longbow, hip firing, headshots repeatedly, even into Bangalore smoke and all I hear from EA is crickets.... but let me say (Edit: Removed language to conform with Forum Rules)  and u get a ban. Ea sucks

@atomicvudeuxThere's a lot of players cheating. If I had to take a guess, I'd guess that the majority of the playerbase has some sort of cheat or script. So, if EA/Respawn were to ban all the cheaters, that would be it.

You can't play pubs without running into smurfs and cheaters, you can't play ranked without cheaters ruining the matches, and you can't play mixtape without cheaters, smurfs, and bots.

This is not even mentioning that recently a whole cheater Discord got exposed, which had about 50% of the "top players" in it. So, if you ever saw a master or pred player and thought they were cheating, chances are, they were.

EA/Respawn hasn't even said a single word about this either.

Also, there was a player who hit #1 pred by cheating, and it took EA/Respawn a very long time to even ban the player. Before their ban, they were allowed to play even after they were caught playing with cheaters.

In recent weeks, some players have been getting "falsely banned', with many of them getting unbanned. However, that begs the question: How good can we even trust the anti-cheat, let alone the system? If players who "aren't cheating" are getting banned, and those who are cheating are being allowed to play, what integrity does the game even have?

I personally think the game needs a whole new anti-cheat that works more on its own. EAC mainly works by going off of player reports. A lot of players would just accept that they lost, and not think twice. They would leave the matches, and there would only be a handful of reports against the cheater. Even then, with a better anti-cheat, cheaters have been coming up with new ways to bypass the anti-cheat, so any new system would have to be constantly on its feet to counter them.

idk i've a 6.0kda this season and i really rarely encounter cheaters in pubs/mixtape , are you guys playing on asian servers ?
High mmr ranked is around 50/70% cheaters tho.

@WTF_Huitzo No, but I do see a lot of Japanese/Chinese names in my matches, and they either have very high ping as they teleport around, or they're using cheats. Most of the cheaters appear to be from my region, as they're English names, even though that's not quite a clear indicator.

I also saw a level 2 Wraith who was aimbotting and wall hacking. It was super obvious that they were cheating. I have no clue how that's "undetectable" cheating, but its quite clear that the game needs a better anti-cheat if it can't ban someone snapping from player to player with no recoil, shooting through knockdown shields as if they didn't exist, etc.

Edited: Just had another match, where it was a level 8 Wraith, (different player name), and they too were using cheats. They ended the game as the kill leader with 12 kills.

No idea how a "new" player who's snapping to others isn't flagged as a cheater, let alone a smurf. Then again, they allow pro players to do "rookie to pred" grinds on new accounts, since "smurfing is when you stomp lower lobbies over and over again", even though when that pro player goes through rookie, bronze, silver, gold, and plat lobbies, they're doing the exact definition that EA/Respawn uses to define smurfing in Apex. The pros stomp on these lower lobbies until they're back in diamond, masters, and pred level lobbies.

Although the "hidden MMR" makes it to where it doesn't even matter if they smurf or not, since you can see diamonds to preds as soon as silver IV.

I also don't think KD has anything to do with the players we run into. Your KD, (as you've mentioned), is 6.0, meaning you killed more than you have died. Mine is 0.81 overall, 0.77 for S19, and 0.72 for S19 ranked, which means I've died more than I have killed. If you're not seeing cheaters, that's a clear indicator that the matchmaking doesn't use KD to determine who fights who, as you should of fought these cheaters more frequently than I would of.

If I had to take a guess, its that we're all facing cheaters, but a lot of us just chalks it up to, "oh its just a pro player, nothing I could do".

Besides if you were saying KD is a factor, it doesn't make sense either, as a new player could get 5 kills in one match and then die, where their KD would be 5, that would be right below your KD by 1. Does that mean they're a good player and should fight against other high KD's? Not at all.