Re: Revert wraith nerfs

Yeah this conversation goes useless long ago, he just want to be able to compensate for his lack of skill playing broken Legend, and all its ok.

And Wraith players act like this all the time. Oh don`t touch Wraith, buff the rest. Okay they decide to buff Gibraltar, and make him what he was supposed to be, a tank, and all the Wraith players was on the forum complains how strong his kit was, and that they can`t win a 1v1 fight, that they are just not suppose to win, cause he obviously is a tank, and should shine in this situation.

While i never ever have a problem against Gibraltar, you just need to play it smart, not rush it like mad man, tho what most Wraith player was doing, they W-keying and was abusing a totally broken Naruto animation that make her hitbox nonexistent, as well as crouch spamming a-d, and due to her strafing animation and her small hitbox, they were thinking they are gods in the game ....

They tooned her down towards the rest, and she is still super strong, but balanced, and Wraith players are dying instantly in situation where they should die, but they are still complaining hard. :D

I`m sorry but anyone who is claiming Wraiith Q is useless is just a low tier player that simply refuse to get better at the game, refuse to learn, and refuse to improve.

This is still top 3 best Tactical ING.

Even Dev have stated it, we don`t want this to be a get out of jail free card. So i don`t see a single reason for them to revert this change.

As far as the pick rates, we still don`t have the data for Season 8, but we have it for Season 7, and Wraith was the most picked by FAR.

1. Wraith

2. Bloodhound

3. Horizon

4. Octane

5. Lifeline

Just to mention, just 5 months ago, in PGL Showdown, Wraith pick was 100%, that just tells you the whole story.

@LordloshBangyes that dude wants broken legend again but look at my post what needs to be changed i thing my suggestion is fair like:
1: Q 1 sec activation time and remove slow when casting
2:ultimate make it 100 meters again now it's 75 meters
3:remove low profile for every legend that have it, i know that devs want to remove LP from every legend

4 passive need to warn you when enemies look at you not when they aim at you

all wraith mains are now horizon or octane mains...

Of course i make sense, cause i`m speaking truth. :D

I already post 10+ videos of Pro players and content creators, and all of them having Wraith at A+ or S tier.

This is 5 months ago:
https://external-preview.redd.it/hLRXmMZMkeRHp3YgqSWngfexgDAG09fCsoY3R1UShvY.png?auto=webp&s=96054d2ee3af7b62b2dc5068e4f9aad77903590a

Wraith 100% pick. She was 100% pick all the time, before Season 8, in every single competition and high ranked game.

Right now she is still top 5 pick.

Top players still use her, she is still picked in Pubs, High Ranked, and in Competition.

You know what thats tell you ? That she is alright.

And this ain`t my opinion this is straight up facts.

When a legends is perfectly fine, have high pick rate, high win rates, top kit, she ain`t needing buffs.
She ain`t needing nerfs as well.

And this ain`t mine words, but Dev words:
"These changes are meant to disincentivize Wraith players from using Phase Walk as a “get out of jail free” card, and move it into more of a repositioning and scouting ability."

But still with the right play and fast reaction you still can use it as such.

And no her Q doesn`t need buff at all, not 1.0, not 0.9, 0.8, or so.

Its fine as it is.

The only thing they need to do with the increased hitbox is to just remove either the Limb damage, or to remove the LP altogether from the game, and balance the game towards that, aka smallest legend to have lesser kit, while bigger one to have better kits. And its up to you to decide what you wanna take.

Simple as this. And even if they decide to not touch her, she is still fine as it is, as this is everyone who is good at the game opinion, as well as stats shows this.

Simple as that.

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@matzesingt wrote:
@codeleaf00She is normal

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Not by his standards. :D He wants to be able to W-key on someone, and when he is about to die, to be able to panic button Q and go back to safety. Aka zero skill used in this play.

I mean if they want Q to be reverted, let the Devs revert the Q. But reverted as it was.

Bring back the old CD - 35seconds, bring back the old duration of the phase - 3 seconds(now its 4), bring back the old speed, aka no 30% increased in the speed, and bring back to not be able to see people around her.

I think that is fair.

Code-_-Leaf-_-00 i don`t need to play her to see she is alright. Tho i played her enough, and she was never weak, never underpowered and never ever she was useless, as you are trying to make her.

I have my opinion, but i`m adding straight up arguments, and straight up facts to validate it.

This is how you making a point.

Game is balanced towards the highest possible level of play. Its been like that for like forever.

@LordloshBangwhy you don't reply to me if so smart my dude ???
and only reply to code leaf guy

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@solo_ARK4N wrote:
@LordloshBanghttps://twitter.com/ApexSinghLabs/status/1376578746774401031 update your research my guy she is only picked because portal !!! portal safest way to rotate !!! tell me how many times you use wraith ultimate in pubs very rarely

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I don`t need to update anything i made a specific comment that this was Season 7. Season 8 date is not up yet.

But your link just prove my point. I don`t care for what exactly she is used, for small hitbox, for portal, for Q, her passive or so. The important thing she is the second most picked legend in tournament with 77% total, and most picked on NA with 85.7%.

And her portal is useless if she can`t insta Q while her ultimate, and evase all damage. I`m playing this game before the seasons begin, aka from the beginning. I`m playing tournaments and pro plays from long time.

I know the game mechanics extremely well, and i know how to play the game, and understand certain decision and why certain legends is picked.

Wraith is picked not only because of her portal for rotation and reposition, but because she is great scout, and have 4 sec invulnerability on her Q, which is super important.

She can go way further and scout, she can go and loot dead booxes that are unsafe, and people can snipe you. You know why is that, yeah because of her Q.

She can insta Q while on her portal as well, for the safest way to rotate, as you state as well.

She also use her portal into Q to steal/hijack enemy players.

She also use her Q to counter every single ult in the game, and she is the only one to do so, as she is the only one to have 4 full sec into invulnerability. She is also the only legend that can get away from a certain death, while stuck with Arc Star, she just Q and avoid the dead. I don`t see a High quality player Wraith Dying by Arc Star.

She also doesn`t take Zone damage during her Q, which is a HUGE thing in High Rank and competition during the last zone, as well as her Portal.

How you like it now ? Its my opinion.

But you know what, everyone have one, but when you put the facts, the arguments to it, and add weight, then your opinion have more weight than others, you get it now ?

Once again in this thread:

But lets see what other have to said:

Hal:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NnxCb4na4g

Madness:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xBjMBUZVnQ

And the rest:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RmuEhRQ-1s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BdNEuzmtag

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDBvC_JH0sE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lb2B8SXEDgM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDmw-mcgLYg

S and A tier legends doesn`t need buffs.

I think Pro would know the game better than some casuals(including me), right?

This is absolutely dead last from me. No need to lose more time on this one. I already have stated many times that she is perfectly fine. All the stats are showing this, pickrate is showing this, as well as her Kit is strong enough.

Her tactical is top 3, along with Gibraltar dome and Horizon Lift, and a big nerf is coming to Horizon, and Gibraltar dome was nerfed quite a lot recently as well.

So Wraith doesn`t deserve a kit buff at all. Its already strong enough.

Just like they said it, just get gud!