Re: We don't need a garbage system such as abandonment penalty in mixtape mode.

@MayProtein 

I can see how the abandonment penalty system can be frustrating. However it is equally frustrating when you play a match and just because your teammate did not get the Legend they want quits. 

IMHO the abandonment penalty is a good thing. Quitters hurt the match, hurt the team they were on and makes a bigger mismatch and even the opposing team can feel bad about that as well.

If you feel so strongly about that then maybe mixtape is not the mode for you. 

@Asmodeus566
So, if you have a solid team balance, and if you are able to provide matches that are played properly by eliminating users who cheat and use macros and tools that violate the rules, then there should be some kind of waiver penalty for players who leave a match and cause damage to their team. You say you have no problem with some sort of penalty for players.
However, as it stands now, there are tons of cheaters and players who use macros and converters to cheat, and the balance of each team is catastrophically bad to begin with, always winning or losing one-sidedly, and there are almost no matches that can be played properly.
Do you really understand that I have been saying for a long time that it is wrong to try to force players to stay in a match until it ends without even allowing them to leave when the match itself is already corrupt and broken?

Whether the player leaves or not, the current state of the match itself is already hurting the game experience for both teams.

I mean, if a player leaves a team in the first place, why not allow other players to join in the middle of the match to compensate for the player's departure?

I have said many times that this abandonment penalty is a major cause for players to quit the game as they find it boring in the current situation where there are only matches where the premise is destroyed in the first place, such that there is no balance between teams, and that such one-sided matches are the only thing that can be said, "No, this is fine, even You should realize that people like you are in the minority in saying "no, this is fine, even if there are only one-sided matches, under no circumstances should a player be penalized for leaving a game that hurts the team experience".

Most players would quit the game itself if they were forced to continue playing in these rotten and unworkable matches in the first place.

What you are saying now, while seemingly correct, is simply an attempt to maintain the status quo instead of using our brains to improve the current problems.
The only result will be to shorten the life of the game and cause it to decline.

You should understand that the exclusive and rigid idea that if you can't accept the current situation, you should quit this game, is the reason for the game's great decline.

Well, that's why the playing population is declining greatly and apex is declining.

@MayProtein 

You make quite a few good points here. Well put together and thank you for your response.

I do not play a lot of mixtape because it is a hot mess at times, however when I play I never quit, I do my best and try not to let it get to me. 

I am all for improving the game. Yes MM needs to be better in Mixtape, I will not argue against that.

Yes cheaters need to be stopped but as we all know it is a continuous fight as anti cheat gets better the cheaters find new ways to cheat so it cannot be stopped completely.

However I still think that the abandonment penalty in Mixtape and Ranked play needs to stay.

There are so many people that just leave off the get go, you took their legend and the just leave, they do not like the legend you are playing and leave, they leave just to mess others games up, They are having a bad match even though the team is winning and they leave etc, they are losing in the match even though it is close. 

The behavior of petty gamers will always be there and the only way to address them is with abandonment penalties. 

In a perfect world players would not cheat, the MM would be balanced, players would give it their best and be on good behavior and we would not need the abandonment penalty at all.

However sadly that is not the case. 

Happy Friday and GG's to you. 

@Asmodeus566
An abandonment penalty in ranked matches is definitely needed.
This is because when there are only three players on a team and one of them is absent, the team's power is greatly reduced, and the nature of the battle royale makes it impossible for another player to join in the middle of the match.

In mixtape mode, however, there is no problem if another player joins in the middle of a match to take the place of a player who has left.

Of course, leaving the game for poor reasons is not acceptable, but mixtape mode should be a mode that can be played more casually, and there is no problem even if players switch places.

And nothing is the only and absolute way to deal with the behavior of petty gamers, a one-size-fits-all penalty, and there are plenty of other ways to do it.
You should start by throwing out that entrenched mindset.

As I have said many times before, if a player leaves in the middle of a game, another player should be able to join in to make up the shortfall.
If you want to deal with players who leave right after the start of a match because a legend they want to use has been used by another player, or players who leave because they feel they are about to lose, then you should only penalize them if they leave right after the start of a match or near the end of a match.

In the first place, as I've been saying all along, the current mixtape mode has too many broken matches, and I'm saying that no penalty should be given for exiting in the middle of a match unless that situation is resolved.
We should never try to force players to stay in a match until the majority of matches are properly established.
Because if players are tied to those broken matches, the majority of players will leave the game, saying that the game is not fun and that they are forced to play too often for too many painful hours.

I have said many times that if you want to penalize players who leave in the middle of a match, you should first make sure that the match is well organized and enjoyable for the players.

Being tied to a match that is out of balance is just as painful, if not more painful, than a match where players are leaving one by one and there are no more players left.
And the current mixtape mode, which makes that pain almost every time, will eventually lead to fewer players.
So, at the very least, we should allow players to leave until the current situation is properly remedied to minimize the pain.

The current mixtape mode is like being forced to live in daily fear, not even being allowed to leave the area where security has collapsed and the place is a complete mess.