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Stevoyd's avatar
3 years ago

Remove Kings Canyon

The map is way too small.

If you start a fight, every team across the map converges on your position. You don't even get chance to heal, its just one team after another, after another.

If you use any Heroes with abilities to relocate anywhere, you just end up relocating on top of another team, because the map just isn't big enough.

Scrap the map, get rid of it. It was fine when there were heroes and abilities/equipment everywhere that allows transitioning the map quicker; but now, its no where near big enough to get any gameplay out of it.

15 Replies

  • blackeyeriver's avatar
    blackeyeriver
    3 years ago
    @MrGreenWithAGun This is a good strategy. Damage numbers show in an indirect way the contribution you made to the squad. People who can post high damage can always tone it back - like a switch, where passive players can't, because overall they aren't good fighters and never learnt how. You are on the right track. Do not let win stats blind you in the short term. Do what you do and the wins will pile up sooner than you think, and team invites would also become a thing and then you would also be ready to hold your own in all situations.
  • reconzero's avatar
    reconzero
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago
    @blackeyeriver

    "Adapting to faults of your teammates" reads to me like "letting bad or inexperienced teammates get you killed is good sportsmanship." If you say so.

    The op's premise is that the map is too small and has too much 3rd partying and needs to be removed from rotation. If that's not an invitation to discuss what's wrong with the map, or more importantly, what people mistake as a map problem, then I really don't know what is.

    I'm not going to assume that "overly passive" is a judgment any more than I judge people for being "overly aggressive." Yes, people are allowed to play the game any way that they see fit. Experience tells me that one method leads to success more often than the other. If I yell down the mic at my "overly aggressive" teammates then that's judgmental. I'll let you know when I start doing that.
  • @reconzeroBro, come on, you know that's not what you mean by these constant comments about "me good, teammate bad", "amen brother, sUrviVaL game" comments. You don't approve of how other's play hence you are being judgmental...calling teammates "drooling idiots" and all or replying with sarcasm to posts..and glossing it over with a "play however you want, I don't care", but you do otherwise you would not bring it up. You choose to play (with random players) a certain way then you get upset when people don't share your view.

    "Experience tells me that one method leads to success more often than the other" ---That depends on who you ask. Players who are accurate and good at fighting would disagree, it's all over YouTube, all over Twitch daily and many more aren't public about it. They didn't achieve that ability out of thin air, but you seem to look down on players who are trying to work towards learning or leaning towards also trying to get kills / damage while trying to win. And before you say it's an unrealistic goal, I agree, for most it might be, but for others it is 100% achievable with effort. Can't blame anyone for at least trying things and "success" can mean different things to different people.

    "Adapting to faults of your teammates" reads to me like "letting bad or inexperienced teammates get you killed is good sportsmanship." If you say so. ---This does not have to read that way, it's the way you choose to read it and tends to say a lot about your general outlook. We all were new to the game at some point. And I thought the point was to play as a team?

  • reconzero's avatar
    reconzero
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago
    @blackeyeriver

    "This does not have to read that way, it's the way you choose to read it and tends to say a lot about your general outlook."

    My general outlook is, I'm pretty sure, the same as any day one player who solo queues. To call Apex matchmaking a mixed bag is being incredibly generous. But if your experience has been better, or if you are more tolerant of other players' quirks, or are so good at the game that you can afford to be so tolerant, then my hat is off to you. My solo queue experience is such that if I try to be a "good teammate" I end up in Fragment 95% of the time and dead in 18th place. If you can have match after match after match end that way and still feel good that you gave it the ol' college try, then my hat is off to you again.

    ""Experience tells me that one method leads to success more often than the other" ---That depends on who you ask." Sorry, I should have been clearer and said, "MY experience." ImperialHal's experience is irrelevant to me. We are not playing the same game. So please let's not try to tell rank-and-file players that they should be judging their game experience by anything they see on a stream. Completely unrealistic. And no, that doesn't mean I look down on their accomplishments or abilities. It means they have no bearing on how I approach the game.

    "And I thought the point was to play as a team?" The point is to win. If you choose a path that is less likely to lead to a win then that's perfectly okay because "success can mean different things to different people." I certainly don't expect to win every match, but I go into every match trying to avoid situations, such as hot drops, where luck is the decider. I know, "Bad player with no aim who camps on cliffs with charge riffle and ruins game for real players." Heard it a million times. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.
  • @reconzero "any day one player who solo queues..." ---Solo q like I said is your own choice. No use in complaining about it or insulting people for playing a certain way who are on your team no less. If you are really smart about it you would try and play along until you find players that you agree with so you can have a permanent team. Why you do not have one as a day one player who seems to take this so seriously is strange to me. It's meant to be played in a team after all, that should be the end goal.

    "that doesn't mean I look down on their accomplishments or abilities" ---yet that is exactly what you do every chance you get. "amen brother!", "say it louder!", "this isn't a deathmatch", "ranks are pointless", "kills are meaningless" etc etc etc.... LoL. I cringe when I read that stuff. And I wasn't even referring to the pro's in that statement, many people are good aside from them, the ones we see are only the ones who make it public. I played with a 6 year old boy who bodied both me and my friend relentlessly in Fortnite in 1v2's. Let that sink in..he's 6 and he owned us both.

    "The point is to win" ---I find it funny that you are so against "sweats" yet you sure do make a good argument for being one. And what is so special about winning that you can't seem to go without it? I don't care for wins..even with my 230 ping I managed top 0.2% wins in my 3rd season of Apex with my main. I thought it was boring. Not a flex, just saying there are other things that make the game fun and if that is the only thing that makes you happy have at it, but maybe just chill on the whole criticism thing about the rest of us.

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