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5 years ago

REMOVE MASTIFF ! OMG !

I swear ! I got killed by a guy level 60 ! plz it's a beginner ! MASTIFF requires no shot ! How to ruin a game with 12 bombs cuz of this noob gun ! get brain when you are doing some updates !

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Zamaha400

5 years ago

@Oyasumlpunpun Didn't say the Triple Take was OP just mentioning what happened to the precision choke and why the PK needs the same # of attachments as the Mastiff. The Triple Take is irrelevant just felt weird not mentioning the other gun precision chokes are attached to.

I'm going off of memory but I believe the PK hit 70+ damage shots at range even without being choked. 110 when choked I believe but again this is going off of memory from seasons ago.

Aim assist derails this topic. Has nothing to do with my stance on it or the Mastiff. If it's as strong as people imply it is then most controller players would prefer the Volt/R-99 anyway since those guns beat anything if you don't miss.

I'm not that good of a player but I'm prideful. I won't use anything that gives me an unfair advantage. If Aim Assist gives me an unfair advantage I'd demand to be separated from PC players and deny the idea of including it in tournaments. Im already not a fan of combining PC and Console.

Most People that mention Aim Assist being a problem ignore the advantages of M/KB so its hard to take them seriously. I'll own up to any flaw on my side of the argument but most others won't but....

I didn't want to discuss it because it brings us WAY off topic.

Oyasumlpunpun

5 years ago

@Zamaha400
It is on topic simply for the fact that the people who argue to "just stay away" from the mastiff are probably the same people (like yourself) who use aim assist. Aim assist is an unfair advantage, theres a reason why its used by a major number of tounry level players over M&KB, its so they can ABUSE the aim assist. There are high level Japanese players that do insane things with aim assist that they can not without it. How does this connect itself to the mastiff conversation? Simple, people who use it have an easier time killing and dealing with people who use the mastiff. Making their arguments less as strong when they argue for the mastiff "not being so powerful" or "not being in any games". If people arent seeing mastiffs, maybe they're on console where the mastiff is out matched by literal in game aimbot? Are you seeing my point? Also btw, i have a friend who is stuck on console atm, i 1v1 him a lot. His aim assist does magical things with the shotguns that a M&KB takes a lot more effort to pull off. Everything aiming wise is increased with the aim assist so speaking about it while talking about how broken the mastiff is, is very relevant.