REMOVE MASTIFF ! OMG !
I swear ! I got killed by a guy level 60 ! plz it's a beginner ! MASTIFF requires no shot ! How to ruin a game with 12 bombs cuz of this noob gun ! get brain when you are doing some updates !
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@Zamaha400 No damage reduction for range is really a problem. Actually I always get headshot by a wingman at a long range. Guess what, I am too tired that EA will not implement damage reduction on range, hence now I am trying to use wingman as my main weapon. For R99, I am too suck to control its recoil while Volt is better due to its slower fire speed.
As I said, mastiff are hard to win against most of the weapons when having 100m distance and there is nothing between them. You will certainly be deleted before you reach ~20m, which mastiff can deal more damage. But to be honest, there is not so much chance that this situation happens (and you are not allowed to flee). Of course you can't compare to that old good sniper shotgun (that 110 damage in a hit and can do the same in 100m), but mastiff is better as it can still deal some damage in mid-range and it is harder to miss, this makes enemy low enough to be 2-shotted even you missed some of the bullets.
Removing the bolt for mastiff only cannot solve the problem (actually problems). Although this kind of games needs to base on some lucks, you can die fast when you cannot get a bodyshield while enemy gets a mastiff. This takes only 0 second as BAM, you are already dead. You can do this with snipers too, but it definitely less likely to happen, the enemy at least need to aim at your head to do this. I think we need to do something to the damage of mastiff, either nerf its total damage, or even the 1st shot to an enemy only (but I think this is hard to implement, definitely lots of bugs will occur).
As I said, mastiff are hard to win against most of the weapons when having 100m distance and there is nothing between them. You will certainly be deleted before you reach ~20m, which mastiff can deal more damage. But to be honest, there is not so much chance that this situation happens (and you are not allowed to flee). Of course you can't compare to that old good sniper shotgun (that 110 damage in a hit and can do the same in 100m), but mastiff is better as it can still deal some damage in mid-range and it is harder to miss, this makes enemy low enough to be 2-shotted even you missed some of the bullets.
Removing the bolt for mastiff only cannot solve the problem (actually problems). Although this kind of games needs to base on some lucks, you can die fast when you cannot get a bodyshield while enemy gets a mastiff. This takes only 0 second as BAM, you are already dead. You can do this with snipers too, but it definitely less likely to happen, the enemy at least need to aim at your head to do this. I think we need to do something to the damage of mastiff, either nerf its total damage, or even the 1st shot to an enemy only (but I think this is hard to implement, definitely lots of bugs will occur).
@Xx__Miku831__xX Typed out a long reply that didn't go through for some reason. People dislike losing to anything with no chance of fighting back but it's hard to keep a high damage weapon in the game without creating that situation. The few Ideas I have aren't well thought out enough to bother posting them again.
I hoped that removing the bolt from the equation (like @MartimRosat mentioned earlier) would be a significant nerf to its ranged potential and a decent loss to its up close dominance. You're probably right about that not being enough though.
@Oyasumlpunpun You're straight up arguing about Aim Assist to invalidate my argument. I'm not even sure what you think is problematic about the Mastiff since you give little focus towards the topic.
Can't believe I'm typing this a second time. There are two different versions of Aim Assist being passed around on video. #1 where the gun tracks players on their own. #2 Where the gun slows down slightly when dragged across a target. Most people would agree that #1 is unbalanced but the typical console players experience is #2.
I don't believe M/KB players should be mixed with controller players at all. Both sides feel they'll be at an unfair disadvantage but that has nothing to do with the Mastiff.
@Zamaha400
It is on topic but like every single argument you try to come up with, you just nitpick and try to throw out the rest of everyones argument. What was it that you said when you first replied to me? Changing someones arguments or something? Well yeah, thats all you've been trying to do. I've stated why its on topic in my message and since you clearly didnt read it, maybe you should reread it to actually be able to argue with what i said. Lastly, you defending aim assist is pathetic, just stop.
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