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Awhoo_Thunder
3 years ago

Should remove fixed recoil patterns. Could help Matchmaking.

- I would personally remove fixed recoil patterns which shouldnt really be in any shooter game since macro softs and strikepads exist.

Game would get more casual because players could focus only on their aim.

Fighting recoil can be annoying for players without 100hrs in firing range,

then those players get one-clipped by me with Havok from far away and their gaming mood may be gone, maybe even call me a cheater.

Would be great if anyone could beam like this without spending ages on firing range, game would get much more balanced which would also improve matchmaking issues.

Skill gap is huge like this and weekend players cant stand a chance.

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Other things I would like to change:

- Remove Arena maps from TDM.

Add Worlds edge and make it 9v9.

Half of TDM matches are just pain because of lack of teamwork and random spawn.

TMD is overally too chaotic, feels like DM with constantly running into 2 or 3 people alone.

- Improve spawn in TDM, make me spawn by my team, not alone in the corner of map surrounded by enemies.

- Gun Run is okay, maybe more squads into match could be fun.

- Make rotation Control/TDM every 2 hours or so, not 1 month. Its getting boring like this especially with those awful arena maps. (EDIT: Already done, much more fun now. Thanks)

- Would love longer Control matches, they are just too short and those are the best ones mixtape playlist can offer.

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  • lilbabyjoe69's avatar
    lilbabyjoe69
    Rising Adventurer
    3 years ago

    @Awhoo_Thunderwhat does a “git gud” issue have to do with recoil patterns? Every 6th game does not have a cheater, you’re just pulling that out of your arse.

  • Awhoo_Thunder's avatar
    Awhoo_Thunder
    3 years ago

    @1unown1

    First is that you have misunderstood how recoil in Apex works, but I will try to explain:
    Recoil pattern goes away only if someone is moving close enough to you (or you to them or both) and you tracking him, when they are further you get recoil no matter if they move or standing still so you have to control recoil and adjust your aim at the same time then you can spray at any distance anything you want no matter if its moving or not (easiest way to do is with Havok because of its high projectile velocity) and with 6x Havok or Hemlok you dont need sniper because you have it from your Assault rifle already which I was regularly oneclipping players with Havok and Hemlok at longer distances, you just predict their movement  and spray into that pattern.

    Its much stronger than any Sniper and it takes a lot of pratcice.

    This is what makes Macros so strong in this game(Its also called scripting.).

    Pro players dont even use this method and guns because they play in team and they just all push together with SMGs which is much much easier way to defeat your opponents (They still have to control CAR, 99 and Volt perfectly.).


    Large skill gap maybe fun for player who invests 1000hr into game playing regularly, but then its just not even fun to own those casual players like that if they have no chance to put up a fight.
    This can cause only one thing which is casual players going for cheats because they like the game, but they cant stand a chance against you or they just uninstall, they dont have time to spend on firing range and stuff, they have lives to do.

    I playerd Rust before and after they removed fixed recoils and after that the game is really much more fun and every fight is much more balanced, game just feels overaly more fair.

    Also you may wanna switch your games sometimes and getting back to Apex is really not good experience when you play something else for like 1000hrs.

    I like this game and I really wish this could just go, I want this game better because I wanna play and have fun.

    Also more casual players with jobs = more sold skins maybe. It could benefit game company as well. 🙂

    Seriously, Rust is 10x better with no fixed recoil patterns than it was before and not only because of less macro cheaters. I have probly 1000hrs in that game and more than 1000 in Apex.

  • Unitee01's avatar
    Unitee01
    3 years ago
    @AcidicSoda44031 100% correct, console lobbies are dog s&it. And prob half of these complaints are because of it... Some of it is def skill related too. I'm not that good either btw.
  • Unitee01's avatar
    Unitee01
    3 years ago
    @Awhoo_Thunder Uh, why tho bro? You wanna un-casual the game but sbmm exists which is there so casuals and people who play Mario party can play too.....? We have ranked for a serious sbmm mode, but also, wait for it....pubs for a second serious sbmm mode? How awesome is that? It's all guns blazing sweat 24/7!
  • d3bugIT's avatar
    d3bugIT
    3 years ago
    @reconzero

    No kidding what kind of joke is that.

    Every gun in the game has recoil, but the only one that has the least is the R301.

    Heck, go in the Firing Range next time, get the Wingman, stand still and shoot, what do you think that backfire of the gun kicking upwards in the air is called? ---> Recoil. :P
  • Awhoo_Thunder's avatar
    Awhoo_Thunder
    3 years ago

    @Unitee01
    I mainly wanted it less cheater friendly.

    As I said, lot of players dont even consider scripting cheating.

    A4Tech even released recoil macros for games with their mouses. :D
    Also strikepads for consoles would be useless with random recoils...

    Those strikepads are undetectable by anticheat and lot of people use them...

    This game with fixed recoils screams for cheaters attention...

    Its way too easy. Those ones with just scripting will most likely stay undetected forever...

    Also would make Apex more casual, think thats a good thing.

    Noone would have to spend hours in practice range to get good spray.