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@Flashshark1980 Okay let me try it one more time.
I am not pro player, i am matched with people who play this game 24 hours and getting paid for it. They destroy me in normal lobbies. I cant play ranked because i reached diamond and again i play against Pro players. What do you want me to do now?
Let me tell you whats gonna happen if they keep SBMM. Pro players will end up farming me; 1) I create a smurf and destroy you. 2) I quit the game. Consider %20 of player base is like me(Which is). When i smurf or quit the game %20 of a tier is going to dissapear. Then suddenly bracket below me which is about %30 will start getting destroyed by pro players instead of me, then 1) they either create smurf 2) they quit the game. Time passes and 20% of them starts smurf or quit game. Then %20 of the people who says SBMM is great will be in Pro player lobbies :D Then you guys will start to cry because of crazy skill gap and then we guys which started smurfing or quitting game will start laughing at you and we will say SBMM is great! we smurf we enjoy the game.
Meanwhile how many players will quit Apex? How many players will be here to actually play the game ? For me, if i see a game that i enjoy as much as Apex i will instantly quit and i will never look back. Dont forget what goes around comes around, so if you continue supporting this idea it will come around one way or other. Imagine law is not working in your country for %50 of the people and it is punishing people for no reason. But no one touches you, will you say hey i am fine here, nothing will happen? Or will you say * something is wrong? If you say everything is fine, some day this * will come around and then you will cry but no one will be there to hear your cry. I hope this clarifies your position on this matter
@WickXI wrote:i am matched with people who play this game 24 hours and getting paid for it.
I don't need to read on...
So much * I can't take
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- 6 years ago
This thread can be closed...
So much untrue arguments here
- 6 years ago
@Flashshark1980Just gtfo of the forums you don’t know what we are talking about all you care about is that it benefits you ‘’I love the game thanks respawn, everyone else can go to hell’’ is all I get from every single comment you post so just gtfo of here I wish theres was a block button so I wouldn’t have to read your posts over and over all you do is * me off tbh I know @DoYaSeeMe agrees we had a discussion somewhere yesterday but idk where theres way too many SBMM topics, and Im confused on which topic Ive said what, Ive probally repeated myself over and over not knowing
- 6 years ago
1. I have the same right to be here as you have! And my opinion has the same weigth as yours!
2. WIckXI definitly is posting untrue speculations! PAYD PLAYERS??24 HOURS PLAYING? This are false arguments!
3. WickXI and you FallenAngel777 fill half this forum with your posts in several threads and claim there are many player talking about it.
I JUST SEE 2 PLAYERS COMPLAINING! BUT THEY DO 90% OF THE POSTS!Maybe we can say that ranked MM and SBMM seem to be totally different.
Players that are good in ranked yre not automatically good at SBMM and the other way round.
Why don't you stay in ranked then?
- 6 years ago
@Flashshark1980If you honestly think me and wick are the only 2 players complaining about SBMM you arn’t the sharpest tool in the shed, everyone on here is complaining except you, I didn’t make these topics Im replying to them, which means other people are having the same problems?
Once again you seem as clueless as ever Idk if its a language understanding barrier or what but your english dosn’t seem like its your 1st language no offence, I mean its all correct and stuff but i just feel like im reading something from google translator when I read your posts like something from another language that was translated into english, if that makes sence to youWicks arguement isn’t false as you claim, some streamers don’t have a job other than gaming, the same goes for youtubers, they get to play the game 24 hours/7 days a week and get payed to do it by subscribers donating to them, but also I believe twitch/youtube etc pays them aswell aslong as people like/subscribe to their videos, or they get so many people streaming their videos
my point is gaming is their life in some cases, they play the game 24/7 and because of that they have perfect precision aim and no recoil, something you would never dream of or comprehend and have no idea how thats even possible because you DON’T KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT, how many times do I have to explain this to you, Everyone But You and other low level players are getting matched with the Apex Gods from Hell every match, so the games are practically unplayable unless you try to sweat every match (you probally don’t know what I mean by ‘’sweat’’ either) No Im not talking about sweating irl ._.
- 6 years ago
@Flashshark1980I think you are just trying to troll, * people off or you are a complete ignorant.
2) Paid players( they get paid to play this game via twitch, tournaments or team contracts ( if you dont understand this and take this arguement as Respawn pays them to play, well i dont want to say harsh words.) 24 hours OFC no one can * play 24 hours! Their stream is 10+hours, so do you think i can compete with these people? FOR GODS SAKE
3. Go read reddit, twitter, youtube videos! Everyone above noob level is crying. Go bury your head to the sand mate. - EA_Darko6 years ago
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- 6 years ago
@WickXIAgreed I would of posted sooner but my screen glitched out and it made me retype half my above post again lmao he just has no idea what we are talking about its like hes clueless about the gaming industry
- 6 years ago
@EA_Darkowell i have been constructive all this time until someone just came here and started provoking me. Then when someone says something rude you come to warn that person. You can consider me banned i am not gonna interact with this forum, i am not gonna pay another dime to ea after 600euros and i am not gonna play this game with my regular account. gz on handling the situation and disabling my addiction, bye. (nothing rude here right?)
- 6 years ago
@EA_DarkoSorry Darko, Im just really upset about SBMM, My games are unplayable now something you guys are doing is so wrong, Idk if its because Ive won as champion in the new event mode so much but whenever I went back to pubs everyones way beyond my skilll level and im not able to play your game anymore so of course im frustrated, then @Flash over here is not understanding why all of us Higher level players are complaining and its making me hate him which leads to verbal abuse, i will try my best to not say anything else rude to him but if you could just confirm if EA plans on doing anything about SBMM soon? im getting matched with players with 50-250 wins and thousands of kills and I cant even do 100 damage most games and sometimes we have another teammate just as bad as me so one player is stuck carrying us the whole match 1 vs 3, players of his skill level and that player usually gets frustrated aswell and says how trash we are and to quit the game SBMM causes way more issues than it helps and when the negatives outweigh the positives of a friendship I usually remove it from my life, do you plan to do the same with SBMM, I want SBMM to be a thing, but it needs to be able to assign you with players of your skill level more effectively because at the moment everyones way way way above it... and before everyone was either my level or below it those of us stuck in the middle are unable to play your game anymore
- 6 years ago
I really love the new SBMM! It takes me into fights of my level! I am NOT trolling as the others said.
Maybe you can enlight us how flexible the ranking in SBMM is?
If I play bad will I get weaker oponents after a number of matches?
If I play good will I get tougher oponents over my session of 2 hours?
I do not believe they are all stuck to an extreme high level without possibility to get to a lower level again!
Please clearify this flexibility issue!
- 6 years ago
Oh by the way.
I keep changing servers pretty often (Frankfurt 1+2, Belgium 1-2-3).
Could this influence the SBMM rank?
- 6 years ago
MAybe it would really help if EA/respawn would show the community in all detail how the SBMM rank system works...
As I allready said, there is too much specualtion!
- 6 years ago
sbmm best thing since sliced bread. These tear filled posts warm my heart
- 6 years ago
@EA_DarkoSorry Darko, Ill try to be more constructive. Can you confirm weither or not the people at respawn are aware about players blowing up forums on twitter and facebook and on this feedback page? I don't want to feel like all this is for not. I just want SBMM made to affect people under 100 and when you go above 100 sbmm is removed. Idk if this is possible but it would keep newbies with newbies and after getting to level 100 they have to have improved somewhat and then they get placed with people who are level 100 and higher when they queue up for a public match. To me this would keep both parties happy, it would grow the game and retain dedicated fans of the franchise. Allowing experienced players to have matches with people on a varying level of skill. While the new players are not farmed for kills and damage every game by good players. Either that or remove it...please,we have ranked for a reason. I can't relax in Public anymore, it's becoming really stressful to play this game and i honestly feel more discouraged with how the SBMM system keeps paring me with top of the line enemies. I love this game,it's very balanced,very fun and I've been playing everyday since July. Thank you for reading this if you got this far. I understand you got a lot on your plate probably. I just want to enjoy the game again.
-Sincerely, A Pathfinder Main.
- 6 years ago@CLOWNBOGG I agree with this man let the nubs be nubs for awhile learn the game then hopefully theres enough of us level 100+ so the matches are varying skill level like it used to be and not all top dogs trying to murder you
As @Flashshark1980 is saying I was literally on a really bad losing streak a few nights ago I literally lost every match could barely even do 50-200 damage tops every round yet I was never demoted ._. i feel like im stuck wherever Im at and I don’t belong here I can only imagine its because Ive been the champion so much in the new event mode, let me remind you everyone is equally geared and its based around 3rd partying... just because I can 3rd party dosnt mean Im skilled enough to play with these peoples with 100s of wins if im on a major losing streak round after round I would expect some sort of a demotion until I reach my equalibrium skill level where its all mostly balanced not too nuby but not too pro just somewhere in between where I belong - 6 years ago
@FaIIenAngeI777I just freakin played some matches, EVERY TIME there was about 1/5th of the lobby was diamond premade squads. I'm Honestly so done. It happens almost every game. I'm not good like these players, stop putting me in lobbies with them. And HECK ya know what stop using SBMM on PUBLIC MATCHES. You put in a RANKED mode for a reason right? I'm just so done with apex right now I freaking love everything about this game but getting slapped around by diamonds and predators is not freaking fun. I guarantee you 80 percent of the time those diamond and predator squads win. I've never won against one yet. And im fine with that, i should lose, they're way better than I am. But to have it.EVERY.SINGLE.MATCH. I don't know if you know this respawn but have you ever heard of the hindu caste system? That's what you've done to Public matches. Noobs will forever face noobs, pros will fight pros and stomp out the up an comers who are actually trying to just have a non sweaty match. I'm very angry, But honestly i've had enough, I don't blame my team, i don't blame myself, I blame respawn for implementing such a flawed and terrible match making system, Who the heck even said we needed it? Apex was already outpacing several games I'm just so done. Someone @ Me when they remove SBMM, hopefully by Season 4 and if they don't then I am literally not going to play because it's no longer fun to play anymore.
- 6 years ago
@CLOWNBOGGI agree literally every match is impossible now Diamond/Predator Premades everywhere then even if there not theres still probally others solo queueing with randoms in the same lobby i probally did 20 games the other night and failed to do more than 50-200 damage in each, next day I only did a few I actually won one with 4 kills and my 2 teammates had 3-4 kills each but we didnt see anyone until the final 4 so we just fought a team and the other 2 teams must of fought it out then tried to 3rd party us I think i only won because I had a gold bodyshield for fast heals also i had an R-99 its one of the few weapons I acually can halfway control the recoil on unless i get too caught up in getting sweaty movements and my aim goes to whack
other than that one match every other match Ive done awful and cant do any damage in lmao
- 6 years ago
So just read through this entire post, interesting. Sbmm is working the way it is intended. @Flashshark sorry didn’t know which one to pick confirms it in an earlier post. I am going to paraphrase what he said, I f I screw it up a little it is not intentional.
He said something along the lines of “I enjoy it now I am getting 1-2 wins and higher damage and more kills. SEE it is working, this is no slight on shark, but why should you get more wins and kills if you aren’t improving?
I want to emphasize I am not bashing shark or any other player for that matter. The reason I bring this up is your “skill” will increase with more kills and wins and then it will drag you into my lobby at some point. When it does good luck. Premade squads that will destroy you instantly. There is no mistake forgiveness.
My question above about why you should be winning is a valid one, to what end do we make things easier for people? I am sitting at a little over 200 wins for season 3 some with premade, some with randoms and at least 10 solo, I am not bragging it is just the way the season shook out for me. The dumb part was playing premade in the first 4 weeks of the season is where 150 of those wins came from.
Every game played since all of my friends quit has been randoms. I am sick of discord and trying to gel with another squad, just to have them quit playing so randoms it is.So here is where the “why” from earlier comes into play. Under level 50 players are by far my most common teammates sometimes I get some higher ones maybe 1 out of 10 . That puts 90% of my games in watching noobs get crushed. Oh yeah they have more than 20 S3 wins, but don’t have the awareness to stop taking charge rifle shots to the face as they are blasting someone with a 301 @ 200 meters? So um yeah I am going to ask why people feel the need to be placated in a false sense of I am good at this game. The answer is simple it will draw in new players and when they reach a certain cap it will feed them to the wolves.
Ask @fallenangel how thats going, oops never mind. He is basically in the same lobbies I am. Hang on everyone will get there, while no real marker my k/d went down over 1.5 since I started playing with randoms solely. Sucks tbh, but dropping 2 out of 3 on a squad and watching my team either get destroyed by the remaining player or better yet run away as a duo instead of 2 v 1 has lost its appeal.
- 6 years ago@mastiffslinger Ya Im basically in your same lobbies, playing with randoms is just awful, ive always played with randoms and its usually an awful experience besides a few good teams occasionally, so far in SBMM this isn’t the case there either just as bad as I am or worse and we all get eliminated, or you get a good player on your team who has to carry both of you and do all the work... I had this 8k kill wraith running around trashing everyone... in the meanwhile me and my teamate just kept getting wrecked every second lmao
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