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XLC_Vysmix's avatar
6 years ago

Skill Based Matchmaking to be fixed

This isn’t really a question but rather a request. And this on behalf of the Apex Playerbase. Skill Based Matchmaking is ruining Apex Legends. What is supposed to be “fair” is the absolute opposite. For new players and solo queue players this is a huge problem me included. To test, I made a smurf account which was level 1 and I got matched with a level 50 and level 80 player with both having 10K kills for their main. And as it turns out, it’s just atrocious. Even pro players like dizzy are struggling from this issue and instead of dropping 20 bombs left and right their getting carried and are struggling to be of help. I’m not saying their bad, it’s that SBMM is ruining the experience even for them. And in my perspective, the idea of introducing SBMM was wrong and should have never happened. In short, it’s a heaping pile of trash. Ask anybody that plays Apex, they all AGREE. So EA and Respawn, fix this issue by adjusting the skill gaps or totally removing it or else, don’t expect to not get more players and expect the game to die out just like it did in season 2 and I’ll repeat it again, FIX THIS GODDAMN ISSUE EA!!

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  • @CLOWNBOGGI agree literally every match is impossible now Diamond/Predator Premades everywhere then even if there not theres still probally others solo queueing with randoms in the same lobby i probally did 20 games the other night and failed to do more than 50-200 damage in each,  next day I only did a few I actually won one with 4 kills and my 2 teammates had 3-4 kills each but we didnt see anyone until the final 4 so we just fought a team and the other 2 teams must of fought it out then tried to 3rd party us I think i only won because I had a gold bodyshield for fast heals also i had an R-99 its one of the few weapons I acually can halfway control the recoil on unless i get too caught up in getting sweaty movements and my aim goes to whack

    other than that one match every other match Ive done awful and cant do any damage in lmao

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    mastiffslinger
    6 years ago

    So just read through this entire post, interesting. Sbmm is working the way it is intended. @Flashshark sorry didn’t know which one to pick confirms it in an earlier post. I am going to paraphrase what he said, I f I screw it up a little it is not intentional. 

    He said something along the lines of “I enjoy it now I am getting 1-2 wins and higher damage and more kills. SEE it is working, this is no slight on shark, but why should you get more wins and kills if you aren’t improving?

    I want to emphasize I am not bashing shark or any other player for that matter. The reason I bring this up is your “skill” will increase with more kills and wins and then it will drag you into my lobby at some point. When it does good luck. Premade squads that will destroy you instantly. There is no mistake forgiveness. 

    My question above about why you should be winning is a valid one, to what end do we make things easier for people? I am sitting at a little over 200 wins for season 3 some with premade, some with randoms and at least 10 solo, I am not bragging it is just the way the season shook out for me. The dumb part was playing premade in the first 4 weeks of the season is where 150 of those wins came from.

    Every game played since all of my friends quit has been randoms. I am sick of discord and trying to gel with another squad, just to have them quit playing so randoms it is.So here is where the “why” from earlier comes into play. Under level 50 players are by far my most common teammates sometimes I get some higher ones maybe 1 out of 10 . That puts 90% of my games in watching noobs get crushed. Oh yeah they have more than 20 S3 wins, but don’t have the awareness to stop taking charge rifle shots to the face as they are blasting someone with a 301 @ 200 meters? So um yeah I am going to ask why people feel the need to be placated in a false sense of I am good at this game. The answer is simple it will draw in new players and when they reach a certain cap it will feed them to the wolves.

    Ask @fallenangel how thats going, oops never mind. He is basically in the same lobbies I am. Hang on everyone will get there, while no real marker my k/d went down over 1.5 since I started playing with randoms solely. Sucks tbh, but dropping 2 out of 3 on a squad and watching my team either get destroyed by the remaining player or better yet run away as a duo instead of 2 v 1 has lost its appeal. 

  • FaIIenAngeI777's avatar
    FaIIenAngeI777
    6 years ago
    @mastiffslinger Ya Im basically in your same lobbies, playing with randoms is just awful, ive always played with randoms and its usually an awful experience besides a few good teams occasionally, so far in SBMM this isn’t the case there either just as bad as I am or worse and we all get eliminated, or you get a good player on your team who has to carry both of you and do all the work... I had this 8k kill wraith running around trashing everyone... in the meanwhile me and my teamate just kept getting wrecked every second lmao
  • @XLC_Vysmix It has become absolute garbage. I'm a plat 3 player at the moment and every time I play 'Play Apex' solo I instantly regret it, it's only worth it for a quick warm up to play ranked. 75% of the time the game expects me to be some hard carry with players who are very clearly brand new. It's clearly an algorithm that aims to make each squad have an average MMR rather than every individual in the game (as in ranked). All you get out of that is annoyed people who quit the instant anything goes wrong, so you literally don't even get to play the real game in more than half of casual games.

    I only use this to get a few free games in for aim practice prior to queueing to ranked. Ranked is actually Easier these days than pubs. Wtf?
  • Get a few more 2k badges and see what happens. I'm constantly in pub matches with pred and diamond is impossible

  • @XLC_Vysmix yea im level 60, ive gotten better, but i still suck eggs. i have 400 lifetime kills, i am on pc, may be makes a difference in algorithm? but i have a .65 kd. i have no pc friends that play apex. i love apex, played it on ps4 since launch, and been playin ever since. however, all my lobbies after lvl 10, they have been horrible. i might be decent, but i constantly get matched against either 3 stack reeaallyy good people, or just reaally good people in general. we are talkin lvl 200-400, 2000-22k kills on one charcter, and no matter what i do, i just get pubstomped all day. i am a nonstop solo queuer. i do not play with a team. in order for it to be a learning experience, the max threshold for skill gap is 15 percent. these lobbies the people are like 40-60 percent better. i've only gotten to gold 1, and yet im always matched against preds and diamonds even in casual. i never get anyone who is near my skill lvl, except for my team, who i9s usually leveled lower or similar to me. its now season 6. this * has happened since S3. its just not fun anymore. i hate to be that guy, but yea. i feel like this game is only fun for pros now. i have a full time job. i dont have that kinda time. so sadly i think im gonna waste my time, on a better game.
  • Even in 2021 this is still an issue, I am an of at the game (playing since early 2019) and I took a long break before finally getting back into it recently but I see level 500s left and right like it's the new default and from all the toxic things I see from them as well it makes it truly a challenge to enjoy the game as of right now and with how inconsistent the developers appear with these problems I sadly don't see this changing anytime soon.

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