Spitfire is not op, you're just toxic
Spitfire is fine. There are many other much more important things to fix in this game. The spitfire was popular and that's the only reason people hate it. Every season the streamers pick a new gun to...
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@Death_by_Sloth99 Careful, your toxins are leaking again. Cause the air got quite toxic. Also, I'm a rampart main, thank you very much. I don't even have octane unlocked because I could care less about the mobility meta.
@Peri_Longbow_plzI'm curious what you would suggest be done to the spitfire to make it balanced. It is an LMG, so what can actually be done about it if time firing seems to be the skill gap closure?
Just thought of this, but perhaps all of this is highlighting a different issue. WHY are poorly skilled players being matched up with higher skill? This gap shouldn't be happening.
(Anecdotal, but I recently won a fight against a pathfinder with a spitfire. He was fairly low skilled and sprayed like one would probably assume he did. I hid around a door until the shots stopped, popped out and shot him. It's not hard to beat a spitfire unless you're caught out in the open, but at that point it doesn't matter what weapon you're being shot with.)
@PraetorOfOlea Well, I have already proposed my own suggestion for a Caustic improvement in case you're interested: Caustic thread
And as for your question on how to fix the weapon efficiently without making it useless... Well, you don't. Not directly at least. Instead, we should focus on what causes me to NOT use other weapons more often.
Maybe this just applies to me and my friends, but many weapons in Apex Legends often feel inconsistent, unforgiving and unfair. Aside from different (and more powerful) recoil, factors like bullet speed, recoil patterns, bullet-drop and hipfire (in)accuracy make using weapons like the Flatline, R-99, Devotion, Havoc and Volt SMG somewhat tedious to use. R-301 is among one of the weapons I consider somewhat normal. And Spitfire is consistent, the recoil isn't annoying, it's forgiving and very versatile in many situations. I can sometimes hit multiple shots with a spitfire on distances over 100 meters which usually only succeeds on the first shot with other weapons.
I would rather consider making weapons more consistent between each other. Of course weapons like the flatline and R-99 should stay more difficult to use. But I do think it would be a fair game if weapons like Alternator, RE-45, Havoc, Volt SMG, R-301 and even the 30-30 Repeater would take the place of easier to use and more consistent weapons for the less skilled audience. I mean really, what's the deal with the RE-45? So low damage, yet the recoil is worse than the R-301. And Spitfire is still for me the most accurate to use out of all the weapons. Well, aside from snipers.
My suggestion: Leave Spitfire as it is, and adjust the weapons to be more consistent. I don't want to study a weapon's recoil pattern so I can use it efficiently. I also don't want to use knowledge like bullet drop and bullet speed to be more precise with weapons. Spitfire I can handle just fine. No shady recoil, decent on mid ranges, good on close quarters, overall forgiving. The rest? Not so much.
Yes, a little rant on my side, but I'm not the only one who thinks that. I have a whole group of friends who say the same.
- @Peri_Longbow_plz I liked your rant and you have good ideas. I agree that other weapons need to be more consistant. Somehow I’m actually better with the alternator than the R301. I’m even better with the RE45 than the havoc. Consistency across the sandbox is needed. Thank you for your comments.
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