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what_did_u_do
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3 years ago

The Apex Legends "Experience"

Hi.

Firstly hi people of the Apex forum. I have been playing this game since somewhere season 16, I have around 370 hours in the game, I play ranked 95% of time. My Apex "lifetime" KP is 0.7 somthing and this season currently 1.0 something, my winrate is not really high but I think I have a decent amount top 5s compared to general Apex population. Now this is my first post here, I open this forum from time to time to see whats up. I play games for entertainment.

I like(d) Apex for one sole reason and that is why I played despite all the terribleness, I like the movement, gunplay, game dynamic and its only battle royale I find some enjoyment playing.

Since I started it was quite ok I guess, getting used to the feel and flow. Then upon reaching level 20 I started playing ranked since 90% of PUB games up until that point was quite amazing, my teammates used 0 communication not even a ping let alone a mic or text chat. They literally either go own way or die of drop in less than 20 seconds and insta leave, and maybe sometimes they stayed until i got their banner and then left immediately  after I jumped mountains to get their banner, It has happened numerous times they leave when Im 30 meters away from respawn beacon..So that annoyed me as hell so I went to ranked since there is at least something to play for, there is some sort of sense of progression and people dont insta leave when they downed or dead.

It was fun at first, teammates were ok, games were ok , got some good game wins. Then after a while I started getting teammates that cant even run forward properly, let alone do anything in the shooting aspect, 80% of time my teammates have payable skins, those heirlooms and can barely do 90 damage or even get a knock, it rare but it happens but not often. Last season I slowly made it to diamond since i dont really play a lot and it was hard I must say, that "rat to masters" disease plagued my match make like crazy, more then half the time one teammate always either left his/hers own way or did absolutely nothing in every stage of the game, just being there kind of and ran at first shots fired. So yeah season 17 was quite stupid, then at around half the season I stopped getting any points for kills, 0 points for "skill" and 0 bonus points, all I was getting was placement points with some 2% of games that I got some KP regardless of placement , I got KP when i was 7th with 2 kills, and got none KP when 1st with 7 kills.

And now season 18, nothing changed pretty much, teammates are completely useless 90% of time, I dont it seems people play "loading screen simulator" and "shop" instead of battle roayle, the new pointing system is awful, they amount of points you get is simply to small, mind that I get for kill 1-19 KP regardless the number of kills/assists or placement, I win a game with 16 team kills(i have 5) and I got 159 points, I mean Im just speechless. Then Im being put in console lobbies more than often than not, and since last week Im in console lobby every other game, Im on PC and on mouse and keyboard...I really dont get it, it was fine previous seasons I saw a console player on my team or champ banner maybe once every 15 games or so, then I dont know if this is hand-hold Aim Assist or something else, I get fried instantly more than half the time 0.2 seconds when in 40meters or less from opponent my only advantage is if i dont close the distance and stay midrange and use a sniper or assault rifle, its really funny when me and opponent have the same gun, I am the first that starts shooting and they empty the clip two times faster than me, while their accuracy is 99% somehow of which most shots that hit me are headshots... Even from PC players most of my teammates are on controllers, my enemies are on controllers, basically a MNK player to get matched with me is a unicorn at this point.

I would to really know what are devs doing with this game, because it seems not much. Every season and major update since I started I am getting worse team mates with every game, with some rare exceptions like 1 in 20 games, majority they are usually a duo who cant even do the same damage as me together, they KO no one, they usualy stand in one place and maybe even shoot few times while I battle 2 people up close and get shot from 200 away from 2 different directions...Its like this almost every game. Im constantly playing against people who one clip me in less than a second, most of times while not even looking at me or coming from behind, fyi there is literally no enemy sound in aprrox 100 degree angle from behind, I hear my teammates constantly from all directions but enemies nope. Octane and Horizon are 100% silent when behind me also their Q and Ults have no sound whatsoever 99% time regardless of position.

This game is plagued with terrible player base, almost everybody I encounter in this game is so amazingly stupid and aggressive and rude, regardless of situations, makes no sense - just yesterday this was funny as hell - me+duo(one on console ofc) they hot drop us somewhat we kill first team one gets downed, new teams comes I get knocked 3rd guy still alive and I type in chat "RUN, 2 more teams - craft us somewhere" and instantly the guy starts calling me "trash, *, I suck , how much  damage have I done.." - and this went on for about 2 minutes and this is "silver 2 lobby"... like what - how braindead can you be that this is your response to a teammate for giving you info, I dont know but how come I keep getting brainless team mates that dont communicate well they only yell in mics and insult when they die and do nothing I mean..., they steal weapons in front of you, do no damage, no knocks nothing. I really thought that MM is to pair similar skilled players with eachother vs eachother but i guess not. I guess this so called "system" just does not work at all in any aspect.

Im sick of stupid people being constantly on my team who cannot even understand the ABC basics. Im sick of being in console lobbies, Im sick of aim assist killing me in every game, Im sick of the lack of audio, Im sick of not getting points for my hard earned kills and placements, Im sick of no core issue is being addressed or fixed for that matter. Playing this game has become utterly pointless. This game is braindead on life support  just like 80% of its addicted player base that plays loading screens, loot and use shop and Im 100% certain it will only keep getting even worse. Ever growing pool of AimAssist warriors, people with 30 accounts, people puking slurs in mics, this is just idiotic. 1 in 20 games is what every game should be team properly matched vs properly matched opponents. I dont care if we die 18th or 4th or win as long as we play as team and fight as team and try to do our best.

19 Replies

  • WTF_Huitzo's avatar
    WTF_Huitzo
    Not applicable
    3 years ago

    yup they really need to make a solo mode gaunlet style.
    why only pro get cool things like algs and gauntlet while we have the worst matchmaking mmr system ever seen in a fps

  • Asmodeus566's avatar
    Asmodeus566
    Hero+
    3 years ago

    Best free to play, or for that matter best FPS game ever developed.

    My team and I love it, IMHO no need for Solo mode in a team based game. 

  • HappyHourSumwur's avatar
    HappyHourSumwur
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago
    @Midnight9746 MM in Apex is the morphine drip model for solo queue players. ~10 to 20 matches with less than good teammates getting obliterated by murder bot 3 stacks follows by a game that feels 'normal'. Give you just enough success to keep you chasing that high.
    Smurfs are rampant and cheaters probably are, too. Cheaters are harder to say for sure, but I've seen a few 100% cheaters over the seasons. Neither of these issues seem to be on Respawn's radar.
    Respawn's community relations is also complete trash so what they really do care about and what they are actually working on is mostly a mystery. Given the state of the game immediately after several patches in the last year and the changes to Ranked, I'm actually convinced they don't even play their own game.
  • Hey nice to see the thread didnt die in one day :D

    I literally lost any kind of hope for things to get better, new patch notes that will come into effect with new BUY Event literally address nothing, not one core issue fixed/solved...But hey you can spend another 150 bucks to "collect", well indirectly buy Fuses heirloom. I have been playing apex few hours almost everyday since I started this thread it was a.... I made it to gold barely am gold 4 now about half level to gold 3 and I must say, I still get complete clueless bots in my team who are rude stupid and straight up useless , I asked a lot of them which rank are they and 90% of them  was rookie 1, bronze 3, bronze 1 while I am gold 4 but i cant play with my one and only irl friend that plays apex because he is bronze 3...If I cant squad up with people more than one rank below me why the hell Im getting teammates that are even 2 ranks below me literally every game, its mind blowing lol.

    Now while Im in gold I play vs people of the likes of that timmy guy and his peers and players alike who eat breathe and sleep apex :D then ok I dont mind the fierce competition but if I get useless team mates its me vs 3 stacked preds or top 3% of players, even if i kill 2 of them which I am able and did on multiple occasions the 3rd kills me 100% of time with no exceptions while my team is dead already or still hiding behind their cover 50 meters away watching me battle doing absolute nothing and after im down or dead they go headfirst into 2-3 people in a straight line - jesus even normal difficulty AI in quake has more brain than these people Im constantly matched with. But also a lot of times that discord duo leaves midfight like what, one enemy is down other is cracked and they run away , i watched them play when i was dead , they dont even bother to craft the banner let alone revive, they just go and hide in next ring and wait to get those 3 points...

    Then nothing changed in the terms of lobby - Im in console lobbies almost every game, I tried control and deathmatch and i was the only MNK player on PC lmao everybody else on consoles and half the time I was put into an ongoing game where we were already losing by 50% in control or by 20 kills in deatmatch and if I wanted to leave I would be penalized lol like how legit and fair is this, I can do nothing but laugh. PUBS are totally pointless wont even start on that.

    Few days ago in ranked a guy who was on console and also his buddy, I wrote oh no console lobby again, and he instantly went  "get good, you have no argument, you have movement" lmao, like movement what movement, looting box, or wall bounce, you can do 99% of same movement on controller that a MNK can do,And not once movement saved me from being fragged while a console or pc controller killed me so what is your point, you cant move while looting a box WOW such game changer, I have seen controller players do all sort of funky movement * , and pretty much no one "does that advantageous movement" literally, by that they only mean tap strafe which only PUB bot lobby smurf streamers are doing, I was diamond previous season and I saw literally 5 people tap strafe to "get away" and I still killed them while they were tap strafing , so what is the point of babbling git gud,u hav movment, people telling other people to get good while they utilize aides and half the work done for them by software should just shut up and take the L you are not good nor you ever will be and those complaining that aim assist doesnt even work, its broken, I cant aim with it,etc. should juts stop playing any kind of FPS alltogether, Shooters have always been * to play with controller always, but when this ridiculous aim assist was introduced  with fortnite years ago all what others did was just follow that to give people sense of greatness so they wont leave their micro transaction games and keep pouring their credit card dollars in, and both parties happy af.

    If controllers werent so OP not one ALGS PRO would switch to it from MNK not one and then also go on and win the whole thing . And the % keeps getting higher every month , probably ALGS 4 will have 10-15% of MNKs at most. sad.

    Audio....what audio...."hmmmm, adequate" - had a small debate with a guy on my team and he said that he thinks its intentional that audio is so bad, sounds from behind of you are non existent, there is no sense of position(well except your team mates they are constantly heard, and always one legends from team just doesnt shut up it keeps talking and talking about everything all the time + pair it with pinging items, quips,"ambient sound" it makes my brain hurt...) , even same sounds have different volume from game to game and map to map.

    The only solution I see is Lobbies matched per input (this would be the only fair thing) - this mix of everything together all at once or whatever this is now, its completely stupid pointless and idiotic. Why not just give MNK lock on target button then and 0.4 tracking target magnet , really. but hey that would not be fair wouldnt it.

    I want to opt out of crossplay, I want to play with people who can hold a gun and shoot an enemy, I want to have fun after a long day and not a cringe fest cluster * of console controllers and pc controllers beaming me without sound from behind, shoot me when i hide behind cover or trough closed door, seen it one to many  times bullets curving into me lol.

    Well this game will remain half done, broken, unattended,... sadly and after listening to so called apex devs babbling about basicaly nothing, and acting smug and all mighty on top of their inability just triggers me.

    I will give it one last chance until the end of this season , see how far i manage to go in rank, if nothing changes after season 18 Im gone from this gaming anomaly.

  • ComicBookGuy2727's avatar
    ComicBookGuy2727
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago
    @what_did_u_do You lost me completely, as well as I had to stop reading after hearing - " like movement what movement, looting box, or wall bounce, you can do 99% of same movement on controller that a MNK can do"

    You lost credibility with that statement. Sorry but I can no longer take you seriously. : )
  • ComicBookGuy2727's avatar
    ComicBookGuy2727
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago

    99% of MnK movement can be done on roller  HAHAHAHA. 

    Im sure the pro streamers that have made videos discrediting this statement are all liars? 

    Show me a roller that can tap strafe like MnK (not using steam configs) and I'll show you a gaming company that doesn't care about profit. 

  • Midnight9746's avatar
    Midnight9746
    Hero+
    3 years ago

    Another issue that I'm having, is when I report someone, say for sabotaging, and the very next match, I get them as teammates again, or when I report someone for cheating, and I see them as the champions or in the next game in general.

    How much sense does that make?

  • Midnight9746's avatar
    Midnight9746
    Hero+
    3 years ago

    @ComicBookGuy2727Not sure what you're getting at here, @what_did_u_do has valid points, not to mention that there is a movement, that's non-steam config, that only controller players can do. Not sure if its been patched out or not, but I do know that you can wall bounce and tap on controller, its just different and harder to do. With all the children running to Cronus, xim, and other controller mods while hugging onto the aim assist, its unfair at times. Sadly most legit controller players play like they are a bot, that much is true. I think that's why you'd see pro streamer's controller settings, because they changed the game settings to better suit Apex.

    Which to address the aim assist, yes its both OP and not OP, like its too good at times, and other times its just whatever they're using, (like strikepacks). I've tried controller on PC and on a Xbox, the aim assist is different mainly since they're different values, however it also does pull too hard to enemies sometimes.

    I found myself feeling like I wasn't playing because the controller was doing all the aiming, and I' even took my finger off the stick, and found I was able to knock a player with zero effort... disgusting.

    Also, no I don't use any strikepacks, mods, etc. My controller is a generic wired one that I've had way before Apex even came out, while I don't own an Xbox, I was playing on a friend's console. Their controller was the one that came with the system. Both my PC and my friend's console had the controller set to the default values.

    So, in short: Aim assist is broken, while M&K do have advantages, controllers are not far behind. There's a reason why we saw a PC player with two console players on the team long before last season or so before we started getting put into console lobbies. I constantly saw PC players with two console players in S8, (or so) to S16 where the PC player basically sat back as the other two beamed people with strikepacks enabled. Some of the console players went as far as to use a M&K on console, (yes that's possible and its a cheat), because I saw several loot while moving side to side, a PC only ability. Yes, they had a console icon.

    Aim assist simply needs a nerf, and that's something I think Respawn is already looking into, and anything like strikepacks, xim, etc. needs to be a bannable offense. You don't need any of that to play Apex.

    To everyone on controller telling M&K players to "get good", have you ever considered how bad you'd be if your controller wasn't dragging your aim via aim assist, or if you didn't use anything like a strikepack, (assuming you are, that is)? Also, this goes both ways, to the PC players, there's no point in telling a console player to get good either, you've most likely would have just as much as a hard time if you played with a controller. If you're somehow a controller PC god, or one of the pros who plays PC with a controller, you're in the 1% or so of players who are that good, what were you expecting?

    Besides, from what I've heard, PC pros who went to controller, only did so because it was "better", aka they used the aim assist and controller settings to outperform M&K. Could be wrong with this part, but as far as I'm aware some were thinking about going back to M&K when Respawn mentioned possible nerfs to the aim assist.

    Like, I know this is a different game, but in Call of Duty: Black Ops, (PS3 version of the game), I disabled aim assist, configured in-game settings to what felt right, got good, and was in a free for all lobby, with every player gunning for me as I had zero deaths and 32 kills. I never played it pro, but I no-lifed the game which lead me to getting good at aiming. That and I was predicting player movements, such as if they ran into a building, I'd assume they were going to wait on the side of the door and was ready to combat it. I was such a threat, that 3 people got on mics and told everyone to target me. None of them managed to kill me. Too bad that skill didn't transfer over to Apex. My point with that, is that you don't need aim assist or things like strikepacks. Just like on a PC, practice, get better at the game, and don't use aim assist if you can. Aim assist gives a false sense of skill, and in the case of Call of Duty, it was snapping me to closer enemies when I was doing things like sniping.

    Agree or disagree, at the very least, we need a cross-play option for ALL players, not just console players. Console players are the only ones who can opt out. Can't complain about a console player if they're not in your lobby while on PC, and can't complain about a PC player if they're not in your lobby while on console.

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