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The_Tibber's avatar
7 years ago

The Longbow DMR is unbalanced, and not in a good way.

Lets use a Pro's vs Con's methodology.

Pro's:

High dmg

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Con's

Low clip size.

Bullet speed is appallingly slow for a DMR.

Next to no consistent accuracy in hip fire mode.

Slow fire rate.

No distance indicator like the kraber.

Only hit one target at a time.

With Designated Marksman Rifles (DMR) they are designed to fill the middle man between snipers and infantry.

The fire rate and bullet speed is so slow that the enemy can easily take cover before the next shot is taken.

With some stats taken online, the running speed of anyone with a weapon is 6.2m/s.

The fire rate of the DMR is around 1.5./s.

6.2 * 2 = 3.1 + 6.2 = 9.3m

9.3 meters in game is travelled before the next shot and not accounting for the slow bullet speed.

As a refrence used with the kraber, this is 10m in game:

The only time this particular weapon is good is if the enemy is:

  • In a open field,
  • 20+ meters away from the nearest cover,(and do not miss or it will give the enemy an extra 10 meters)
  • has no armor,
  • You have the time to calculate the bullet fall off,
  • You have the time to calculate the bullet speed delay.

I feel this is a lot of requirements for one weapon to have and needs to be looked at.

10 Replies

  • 100% agree i find all snipers in this game to be boring, slow and ineffective and anytime a teammate grabs it and tries to use it in a fight its almost a garunteed loss if the other squad know what they are doing.

  • well it should have terrible hipfire it's a sniper rifle, that's why you get a secondary weapon.

    But totally agree about the bullet drop off. I think that is the only thing you need to do to this gun is decrease drop off

    mag size is fine imo. You should be punished with reloads for missing shots 

  • Fat-Bakel's avatar
    Fat-Bakel
    7 years ago

    Warning... Unpopular opinion upcoming.

    This gun suffers from the hop-up problem in this game. I hate the hop-ups. They make bad guns usable (longbow, prowler) or strong guns straight up OP (peacekeeper, wingman). 

    If they got rid of the hop-ups, just made longbow always have devastating headshots, at least it would have a place and identity. But no one uses longbow, because for it to be even a decent weapon, you have to find the stupid hop-up.

  • Perhaps the Long Bow is supposed to be a low tier sniper just like the Alternator is a low tier SMG?

  • Kuro466's avatar
    Kuro466
    7 years ago

    I also dislike the longbow. Never use it anymore.

    I dont think the hopups for other weapons are so essential. (I actually like the burst prowler, though i consider it an early game disposable gun as it chews too much ammo)

    However, the longbow without the hopup is useless, and even with the hopup its not valuable. 

    Perhaps they should just give it the insane headshot damage as base, and make the hopup do something else. Such as increase bullet velocity,  or increase rate of fire.

  • nobody plays sniper in this game,  very few people play with that triple take.  

    i like kraber but it has very slow scope aim , if its has quick aim then very great, 

  • The_Tibber's avatar
    The_Tibber
    7 years ago

    OFC nobody plays sniper in game because there are no snipers :P

    According to the bullet fall off, the triple take is the only DMR in Apex. (designated Marksman Rifle's have effective ranges of 300 to 850, tripletake has and effective range of 300m)

    Check the reply i posted with bullet fall off and you can see how bad the bullet fall off balance is.

  • I would actually like to see the Longbow accept the Hammerpoint and Disruptor Rounds. This would give it a bit more utility and increase the chances of finding a usable hop-up. I'd personally go for the Disruptor rounds because I like to force people to eat through their shield repair in long-distance third-partying scenarios.

  • Asmodeus566's avatar
    Asmodeus566
    Hero+
    2 years ago

    @SmugDoodleBug 
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