The Spitfire needs a nerf
It's pretty embarrassing the fact that every low skill player rocks it... It's so stupid the fact that has 55 rounds. Its too broken. You can one clip a full squad and have a few bullets left. I thin...
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This gun has been broken since day 1, but now it seems like every single player runs it. An extremely helpful nerf would be to reduce the mag size of each mag for the spitfire by 5-10 and reduce the damage from 20 down to like 16-17. This gun just hits way too hard and it is entirely too overused in high rankings I just hit diamond and all I run into are people with the spitfire spraying and crouch spamming at me until i'm dead because you can't get away from the guns mag capacity.
it is a lot about positioning.
spitfire hits like a truck, but you are basically unable to move while shooting,
making you an easy taget to hit. spitfire really has lots of downsides tbh.
positioning doesn't really matter when the spitfire does so much damage
The spitfire is absolutely more broken than the R301 in fact I would say that the R301 is the only "balanced" weapon in the game currently. I am not the only who feels this way either there have been pro players saying the same thing.
They gave us a broken gun what do you even mean? This gun has been broken for ages and actual pro players have said the exact same thing
A mag nerf would be huge but it would be really nice to get a small damage nerf as well
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- @Triumphkutter Ever tried hipfire strafing with it bud? Infinite ammo + strafe spam 20 damage a piece
controller players dont really need to move because they wont do it anyways.. they just beam the * out of peoples so they out dps mouse players with it
Magazine nerf is all it needs now.
- @FilthyOpossum I disagree. I can't shoot with it to save my life, let alone knock or kill someone. R-301 however won me countless fights vs Spitfire. Maybe it's not for you, or you're choosing the wrong loadout to fight vs players using Spitfire? "Aim for the head, if you can find it."
no one bat an eye when the spitfire was completely normal with 18 damage per shot because the Wingman hit like a truck, the Hemlock (before it was nerf) was overpowered but no one realized it until the big bad pro player complain about it and the Flatline is better at close range
suddenly, a +1 damage per bullet with the downside of +30% more reload time and people lose their nut. chill bro, they are just trying to shake up the meta or indirect buff to the garbage Rampant, no need to sjt on your pant
- @KissYourHomieUwU The thing is that it is the least requiring skill gun, if you don’t have a mag on you’re flatline/r301/r-99 etc and you don’t hit a one clip, you lose to a lvl 30 holding r2 for 30 seconds
- @KissYourHomieUwU You do realize higher reload time does literally nothing on a spitfire? You do understand that right?
The spitfire is what 19 damage a shot with like 55 bullets with purple mag or whatever and even more with rampart. I don't know how people don't see this being a huge problem. Large damage, loads of ammo, and a pretty okay fire rate. I think headshots are like 32 or something but I think to fix the spitfire to make it more of a balanced weapon is to reduce the body damage by 2 effecting head shot and leg damage as well and also having the ammo capacity reduced by at least 8 bullets. It's literally a overpowered weapon like I think I'm seeing more people with the spitfire than the mastiff. Sure isn't Mastiff Legends anymore but now Spitfire Legends.
@zombieshoota50000 its not even overpowered, I dont understand why people want to nerf everything into the ground on this damn game. We only have like 2 LMG's in the entire game and L-Star is trash so by nerfing the spotty you might as well take out LMG's.
- @DreNH17 3 LMGs and it literally shreds people the Spitfire is the only think I really want to nerf, everything else in the game I can deal with. Spitfire isn't even the only LMG there's still the devotion and L-Star which isn't even that bad.
@FilthyOpossum I'm fine with a damage nerf or even a rate of fire nerf but a magazine nerf? No. Doesn't feel like a LMG once the ammo capacity gets too close to a SMG.
- @FilthyOpossum I agree all day yesterday get killed by spitfire every match
I'm just tired of listening to spitfire spam all game every game. Mute the gun so I can hear what's actually going on instead of someone spray-and-praying.
Theres a lot of people on here saying that the Spitty is not OP and it makes me wonder what game you guys have been playing. I used the spitfire on ranked with a controller with all purple attachments and a 3x hcog and i beamed whole teams left and right and i had no downside to my positioning which by the way basically didnt exist anyways as i was standing out in the open like a clown. I even saw a comment say that the lstar is trash but it isnt it just has a really low pick up rate pick the gun up get to medium range from someone and then tell me that the lstar doesnt fry. Thats not what this is about tho the spitfire needs a SERIOUS nerf
- @FilthyOpossum Exactly the spitfire has so much ammo with more than decent damage leaving loads of damage to enemies allowing to even kill a whole team without reloading and still leaving extra ammo and the L-Star I thing it's just because of the spread of bullets with it not having a barrel stabilizer.
No matter what anyone says. The spitfire with the current bluffs to its damage and accuracy needs to toned down a bit or put in the care package with the mastiff and buff it back up to what it was before. This game was at it's best when first released when it came to fun and balanced gunplay.
- @Blazed_Cajun Exactly but ever since the dumb buffs and over nerfs to characters and buffs and nerfs not even needed such as with the spitfire ruins the game. They have caustic trash, spitfire overpowered, Loba's jump drive broken, Audio broken, Wraith with a hitbox like 2x her actual size, Still leaving Horizon like the best legend, and much more but they wanna go do the opposite with doing other things with ruining the game and not even see how bad this effects the game.
@Blazed_Cajun wrote:No matter what anyone says. The spitfire with the current bluffs to its damage and accuracy needs to toned down a bit or put in the care package with the mastiff and buff it back up to what it was before. This game was at it's best when first released when it came to fun and balanced gunplay.
When exactly someone buff Spitfire accuracy ? From where the hell people are getting this stuffs? How exactly spitfire accuracy was changed?
People start complaining about every gun they are getting constantly killed. Spitfire was not used much, but since ir receive a +1damage buff, people are using it way more often, and people are getting deleted by it way more often, and thats why they come here and start complaining about.
Its that simple.
And Spitfire have many drawbacks.
If you don`t see them or don`t know how to play against Spitfire, then its on you.
While ADS-ng with Spity you are pretty much a tree. The fire rate is very very slow, its even slower than Alternator and L-star ....
It has one of the worst Iron sights in the game.
Recoil on hip-fire its kinda unpredictable, even if you know how to control it, some shots are just not going on the target.
There is plenty of play against Spitfire, you just need a bare average game knowledge for god sake.
Tired of people going straight at the open, get deleted by "x" weapon, and immediately start complaining to nerf the "x" weapon.
In a certain range, and in the wide open, you are supposedly to lose the gun fight against Spitfire, and other LMG like Devotion.Flatline is super strong, should we nerf it too ? Cause this will be the next weapon on the list to complain about.
Previously was Volt and R99. Now they are not used that much(wasn`t people that were complaining about them, wanted exactly this, a diversity?), and people quickly jump on the next thing.
I always switch Spitfire for either Flatline or Wingman if i going to play a heavy weapon.
If you are constantly getting deleted by Spity, then there is obviously huge problem in your game. Firstly - your strafing form is bad, and secondly you don`t know how to position yourself and you are living yourself way too much in the open.
Improve on this, and Spitfire won`t be so much of a problem.
- @LordloshBang As a diamond player with above-average mechanics and game sense, you cannot out-strafe someone that bum rushes you holding left click with a spitfire. Do you forget that unless you're Gibby, Caustic or Wattson that your movement speed is reduced whenever you're hit?
If you know how reticles and accuracy works, then there is a circumference inside the reticle that dictates what % of bullets will travel within it. 100% are inside the reticle, 80% are in another smaller circle, etc. etc. Combine this with a stupidly big magazine, and anybody can run you down while holding left click and hip-firing, requiring no-aim whatsoever thanks to the lack of hip-fire dispersion and a (seemingly) endless amount of shots.
P.S. What reminded me of this thread was my last game. Sitting on high ground where I should be. Both of my teammates go down immediately, taking shots and kiting back the remaining wraith and octane still alive. Get two full charge rifle shots off on wraith forcing her to shield, octane ults right on top of me spamming with spitfire, manage to hit several shots with my r-99 before I have to try and run to reload, jump off high ground and octane hasn't let off that LMB yet. Trade a full magazine hipfire with him and he's still not down (two magazines) and he finally runs out of ammo and then just one tap from an eva--8. Clearly he had no aim otherwise I'd have been dead a long time ago. So what killed me then? Spray and pray. 100% spray and pray, even though I had positioning advantage and we were on equal grounds health-pool wise
