Unfair matchmaking

There is no match making. You're in the game with 59 other players and It's completely random. 

Uh oh... i've seen this happen before, in Hunt: Showdown specifically. People with like 50 hours getting farmed by people with 500 constantly, reeeeeeeeally hit that game hard until ~3 moths later they had to add mmr.

It looks like it yes. But the other day, it looked very different. We almost won against the same around 10-20 lvl guys. I guess its so hard to make a matchmaking system right? No game has ever had a system like that ages ago. Right.

@Powerofdoi 

Yeah, it's one of the reasons i stopped playing it, that and camping was a major issue. It was so bad that people didn't even bother killing the bosses, or did one and left, i Solo'ed, took the Spider and left.

But i timed the games and the camping really hurt the gameplay, as players just skipped the best parts because camping was rampant in many games.

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@SirTomek7 wrote:

It looks like it yes. But the other day, it looked very different. We almost won against the same around 10-20 lvl guys. I guess its so hard to make a matchmaking system right? No game has ever had a system like that ages ago. Right.

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It was a coincidence and yes in a BR implementing an MMR/ELO would be difficult, because most MM systems in other games are determined by win rate. You win a game your ELO goes up, you lose a game your ELO goes down. So players like me would end up with an ELO of 0 most of the time 😃

There are systems that take more stats like accuracy, KDR etc into account, but they take a very long time to implement.

Even games with an MMR system are rarely on point because the top 1% ranked players don't have many players to go up against, so after a certain time limit the match maker just throws them into a lower skill bracket.

Still those with 1000kills are not going to be in ranks 1-50. Experience,

So newbies can have a chance.

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@Anonymous wrote:

Still those with 1000kills are not going to be in ranks 1-50. Experience,

So newbies can have a chance.

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Ive just got killed by a guy who has 1326 kills with pathfinder. Im lvl 17, ive played...more like suffered 6 hrs. So no, no chance to learn the game.

btw,

https://youtu.be/IbUwva2fgZo

good points.

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@MekaDeth555 wrote:

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@SirTomek7 wrote:

It looks like it yes. But the other day, it looked very different. We almost won against the same around 10-20 lvl guys. I guess its so hard to make a matchmaking system right? No game has ever had a system like that ages ago. Right.

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It was a coincidence and yes in a BR implementing an MMR/ELO would be difficult, because most MM systems in other games are determined by win rate. You win a game your ELO goes up, you lose a game your ELO goes down. So players like me would end up with an ELO of 0 most of the time 😃

There are systems that take more stats like accuracy, KDR etc into account, but they take a very long time to implement.

Even games with an MMR system are rarely on point because the top 1% ranked players don't have many players to go up against, so after a certain time limit the match maker just throws them into a lower skill bracket.

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I see, but do you know what i think? This is just laziness. Even if there would be a system that would gather players by their full kill counts would be better than this nothing.
If you think about it, every kill is one little plus experience. So if you make a smurf account, you will kill a lot of ppl so you will get to higher tier players fast, and not ruining the games too much for beginners. Obviously that wouldnt be perfect, but this state, how it is now, just ruining the fun, beginners cant improve and because of frustration you will uninstall and maybe realise you shouldnt waste your time.
When i was matched with beginners some times, it was so much fun, and i felt i started to improve, experience the weapons, fight, etc. Whats the point if youre not having fun? Go home after a hard working day, i want to have fun, not being frustrated and angry because i dont even have a chance to learn how to play, get killed instantly over and over again instead.

I'd consider myself a good FPS gamer, not the best but i can kill anyone if latency isn't working against me. I'm a tactical player, so more often than not i can have the jump on anyone, i generally have an idea where i need to be, and i'm an eagle eye on spotting enemies, and hearing them for that matter. But i don't camp, thats just boring, besides how buggy camp spots tend to be in most FPS games (Shooting their head to hit only dirt).

Having said that, as much fun as it is single handedly killing 12+ enemies in a zone, taking it and then holding it until the rest of your team arrives, it loses it's lustre after a while. It isn't good to beat someone worse than you over and over again, i wouldn't consider anyone who likes an easy game "skilled" sorry but if you can't take up a challenge and vs players of supposedly equal "skill" you ain't very good.

It's great for your e-peen, especially in the age of streamers when they need 100+ people stroking their ego, but thats all.

If i'm just learning i don't want to be, nor expect anyone to be matched against players with 1000+kills when you have just started the game, if it's Battlefield, sure, you respawn and try again. this? it's go back to the main menu and go through the loading screens yet again.

Which all adds a significant amount of time too the learning curve, and once you've got the experience, decent players don't want to be stomping the noobs they once were, they want a challenge.

So yeah, some sort of matchmaking is required and i'd be happy with groups with <50, 50-150, 150+, with premades being matched with other premades or the next highest group up from the highest rank between the 3 of them. (49 = 50-150, 120=150+)

Nothing major, just allows you to learn with other new people, without them getting stomped by pros.

FYI, Latency plays a big factor so "skill" is pretty loose in an online game.