I've always main Wattson ever since her release during Season 2 and continued to use her all the way throughout. I always waited patiently waiting for Wattson to get balanced but it never happened other than her ult changes which were good. Still, Wattson has issues and the Low Profile nonsense on her needs to be removed on top of it. Low ProfileRemoved Low Profile - Wattson reason of getting Low Profile never made sense. Being Hard to get too is not a reasoning nor is the Pro Scene/Scrims. Wattson is actually ease to aim at and shoot. Perimeter SecurityReduce Cooldown from 30 seconds to 25 seconds. It takes too long for her to get her fences unless she is nearby her ult. Caustic had this issue when he was at 30 seconds and was buffed to 25 seconds. Became much better. Wattson should also be a 25 second cooldown trap legend. This will also make her place more fences when she is running away or fighting. Lets be real, you never see a Wattson using her abilities unless she is by her ult in a building. Increase the Node Health from 25 to 50. For those that don't know, Wattson's Nodes each have 25 Health to destroy. This means 1 R-99 and 1 R-301 bullet combined will destroy it perfectly. (11+14=25). 25 Health is so low and that is why it gets destroyed super fast. People can even melee her nodes to destroy them. That is terrible, you wouldn't punch a Caustic Trap because you cannot. Wattson's nodes at 50 HP would at least take a few more bullets to destroy it, 50 would take 2 wingman, 4 R-301, and 5 R-99 shots to destroy it for example. Increase the fences damage from 10 to 15. You should be punished for walking into Wattson's fences without a care in the world. 15 damage would at least make people thing twice and consider shooting the nodes. Slightly increase to deploy node speed. What I mean is when I try to fence in a fight or fence a door. I'm caught waving at an enemy. If you're a Wattson main, you know what I mean. We all died many times because we're waving at the guy who's about to shoot us for free. Spark of GeniusMake Wattson immune to other Wattson Fences. It's lowkey silly that Wattson gets damaged by other Wattson fences when she talks about being electrically charged and ready.Wattson's revive now gives the revived teammate 25 shield health. Wattson is played as a support Legend despite being labeled as a Defense. Even Gibby is a support Legend which is fine, but Wattson should be healing shield health with her revives. I have over 900+ revives on my Wattson which is huge. While not taking damage, Wattson automatically restores 1 shield over time every 2 seconds. Her ultimate (Pylon) is always on her back. Most of us Wattson mains really love Wattson because she a shield health healing Legend. This being her passive would help her out greatly. Interception PylonWattson's ultimate is currently fine. The only change I recommend is making it easier to see the inner and outer circles of the Pylon. Sometimes it's impossible to see it and teammates, including the Wattson player be in the outer ring and when we throw nades. It eats our own nade and abilities. The ring should allows be showing or something much like Revenant's Death Totem is easy to see where the ring ends for his ult. Wattson's ult Rings Fade away which is the problem. Teammates shouldn't be allowed to destroy their teammate's Wattson Pylon. Only the Wattson can destroy (shoot) her own ultimate. This is a problem where some randoms actually destroy their own teammate's ult for no reason at all (they stupid). Teammates cannot destroy a friendly fence, so they shouldn't be able to shoot her ultimate. Wattson's ultimate will be placed in a safe reasonable place and not a troll location (caustic blocking a door with canister). Probably something that won't happen but it a quality of life change. Bug Fixes for PylonFriendly Caustic Nox Gas Traps (and on rare occasions Bangalore's Smoke Launcher) can stop Pylon's shield regenerating effects from working. Once the gas starts to clear away, Pylon's regeneration effect starts working again. Do keep in mind that the Pylon will still shoot down incoming ordnance, but won't repair damaged shields as long as the gas or smoke is still there.

Im all for taking her off low profile. She has no escape tools and shes far easier to hit then people believe, most people that complain about distracting aspects of her model are either A hipfiring in which i'm sorry you have no consistency in your shots and miss half your rounds on nornal profiles and are usually barrel stuffing anyways so that arguement is invalid, or "get distracted by the pylon" nobody aims for the outskirts of the body the rule of thumb is aim for center mass so again invalid because center mass is that woman's chest and pretty face. Octane is just as small and hes normal profile, Revenant is wirey as hell and has a tiny head and hes a normal profile, Bloodhound is short as hell and also has a hat that friggin extends off the sides of his head and hes also normal. The complaints on her hitbox have always been such an invalid comment since you can land hits on her with the same or more difficulty than bangalor or bloodhound.For her nodes im indifferent on the cooldown at the moment, but i feel they should increase the cap on how many nodes she can have out, increasing the health is a good idea, and give us the ability to attach them to ceilings because as it sits the other issue is people always know exactly where to shoot, and im definately in agreement with them taking the hand wave gesture out because all it takes is one second for people to barrel in and gun her down. The damage buff would be nice especially since you have to dedicate two nodes to make one of these fences. As for being immune to other wattson fences she is wearing an insulated suite which she makes an expressed point about in one of her quips, and on top of that if caustic gets the ability to see through his gas and enemy caustic gas and is immune to the effects of it wattson should just as easily be immune to it.Her picking up allies, i discussed this in another forum, giving shield would be an interesting idea though given the fact that she uses the electricity like a defribulator id she should be able to pick people up a little faster. This would make me a much more wanted pick outside of her personality and her area denial ult, and would make a nice alternate to lifeline because the difference there is a faster pickup that still has some risks verses lifeline's safer pickup. But i i like the extra shield idea as well cuz it means less they have to recharge when picked up.Her ult to be is pretty good where it is though i do think it would be good if allies couldnt damage it because it does get annoying when allies want to be stupid and dance around the thing and try to shoot through it and break the thing opening the team up to grenade spam and bombardments. It like to see wattson be able to pick it back up like her nodes because its still a deployable like her nodes and caustics traps.As for her passive i feel the whole her fences cooldown speeding up when near her ult should be part of the effect of the fences not taking up her passive. I love that i can use an ult excellerant to autofill my ult bar but that takes up item space and its very painfully rng based, and since we can only have one up at a time it feels pointless to be able to carry them around. I like the pickup ideas for a passive for her, along with the immunity to the fences, another posibility would be that her melee attacks are electrically charged, she has a finisher where she desintigrates someone with just a touch of her finger for cripes sake.Could it make her unarmed game too much? No more too much then the health of gibraltar's arm shield.As for categorizing her i think it would honestly be better if she was categorized alongside lifeline. That doesnt impact her gameplay at all just seems to make more sense, and ignoring the whole shock punch thing i mentioned i think shed shed be a much more fun champion if her kit geared her more in that direction, i'm not gonna stop playing Wattson she is my girl, and i love wraith and people can say what they want about her but i i just have to put my two cents in on this the low profile nerf was an uncalled for change in the game, it rewards players that just spray and pray and dont try to aim, the fact that this was added in and low profiles still take extra damage just means "You have a smaller hitbox, it doesnt doesnt matter as long as people are aiming buuut hey what do i know everyone is complaining so lets deter people from wanting to play these characters by adding even more disadvantages, we'll keep handicapping you even if you are easier to hit then people think,"This isnt a fair way to balance a game, if you keep stacking handicaps you are just going to make nearly everyone quit playing them except for the ones who are dedicated that feel like the developers just get an immense kick out of * all over that particular player base. I get they are trying to balance it but they are going about it the wrong way, dont dont hold the hands of the players who want to whine and moan that they cant hit someone by hipfiring all you are doing is lowering the skill ceiling for them and giving the shotgun players free kills. For those of you that want to defend this you cant sway me on this whole hitbox fiasco because i never have issues with hitting these characters that people complain about, its not healthy for the game when you start holding people's hands and decide to reward players for blindly spraying everywhere, and if you want to use wraith as the example here is the perfect way to solve it, take the naruto run away give her a running animation closer to bangalore's or wattsons i promise you she wont seem anywhere near as bad.

I disagree that she should be able to pick up her ULT, that would make her seriously overpowered. However, I am in favour of a re-working to her going through enemy fences. Maybe it doesn't hurt her (she is insulated after all) but still slows her down, or maybe it doesn't slow her (as she's worked with electricity her whole life and may be used to getting shocked) but it still hurts her. And I most certainly agree for the removal of Low Profile. She simply does not have the correct skillset to be considered for that. Even if her hitbox is a little small, she doenst move fast and is of relative size to Octane and Bangalore.

@Leo_the_Lion25 Wattson has a fairly small hitbox so low profile makes sense. Reduction to tactical coolown and animation is ok if it was just a little bit but 50 node health is too much, 35 would be ok I think. As for the fence damage I don't agree on this one because the purpose of the fence isn't meant for only damaging legends who pass through it but to also slow down their movement and aiming speed and making them easy to take down for a short time now if you say that the fences should slow legends for longer time then that would make more sense. I disagree that Wattson shouldnt be effected by enemy fences. As for reviving with shield (spoiler) there are leaks that shows every defensive charecter would be able to revive teammates with 50 shields. Now for recharging shields passively I think it would be op especially when her pylon can already recharge her shields beside (another spoiler) I think the ability to do that is given to an upcoming charecter. Finally I disagree with teammates not being able to destroy friendly Wattson pylon as it can be placed in a bad spot and as a result it would effect her teammates negatively.

@Sir_Named There's no point in watching the video. All he does is WASD or Circle Movement on controller. Which is a bad form of strafing. You will get killed and you are still easy to hit doing circular strafe.Also, he's in the Christmas Event Mode which doesn't have maxed out weapons. Meaning the people shooting at him don't have a good barrel mod or even extended mags.There's literally nothing 'insane' about the video at all. In fact, it's misleading.Like I and many others have said. Doesn't matter what legend you are. Everyone can strafe in this game. Both Wattson and Lifeline need their Low Profile removed and I;ll continue to support it.As for the bug issue. I had tested and concluded it a bug. Even if Friendly Caustic Gas is covering the Pylon, nades will still be eaten.I don't know why Smoke or Friend Caustic Gas stops the Pylon Shield Regeneration effects, but hopefully the Developers look into for the next season.

Even Tollis says Low Profile needs to be removed from Wattson and he has the most kills and time with her in the world across all platforms.https://twitter.com/Tollis_/status/1247362130724126722/photo/1

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Leo_the_Lion25

6 years ago

Wattson Main Buff Suggestions For Season 5

I've always main Wattson ever since her release during Season 2 and continued to use her all the way throughout. I always waited patiently waiting for Wattson to get balanced but it never happened other than her ult changes which were good. Still, Wattson has issues and the Low Profile nonsense on her needs to be removed on top of it.

Low Profile

Removed Low Profile - Wattson reason of getting Low Profile never made sense. Being Hard to get too is not a reasoning nor is the Pro Scene/Scrims. Wattson is actually ease to aim at and shoot.

Perimeter Security

Reduce Cooldown from 30 seconds to 25 seconds. It takes too long for her to get her fences unless she is nearby her ult. Caustic had this issue when he was at 30 seconds and was buffed to 25 seconds. Became much better. Wattson should also be a 25 second cooldown trap legend. This will also make her place more fences when she is running away or fighting. Lets be real, you never see a Wattson using her abilities unless she is by her ult in a building.
Increase the Node Health from 25 to 50. For those that don't know, Wattson's Nodes each have 25 Health to destroy. This means 1 R-99 and 1 R-301 bullet combined will destroy it perfectly. (11+14=25). 25 Health is so low and that is why it gets destroyed super fast. People can even melee her nodes to destroy them. That is terrible, you wouldn't punch a Caustic Trap because you cannot. Wattson's nodes at 50 HP would at least take a few more bullets to destroy it, 50 would take 2 wingman, 4 R-301, and 5 R-99 shots to destroy it for example.
Increase the fences damage from 10 to 15. You should be punished for walking into Wattson's fences without a care in the world. 15 damage would at least make people thing twice and consider shooting the nodes.
Slightly increase to deploy node speed. What I mean is when I try to fence in a fight or fence a door. I'm caught waving at an enemy. If you're a Wattson main, you know what I mean. We all died many times because we're waving at the guy who's about to shoot us for free.

Spark of Genius

Make Wattson immune to other Wattson Fences. It's lowkey silly that Wattson gets damaged by other Wattson fences when she talks about being electrically charged and ready.
Wattson's revive now gives the revived teammate 25 shield health. Wattson is played as a support Legend despite being labeled as a Defense. Even Gibby is a support Legend which is fine, but Wattson should be healing shield health with her revives. I have over 900+ revives on my Wattson which is huge.
While not taking damage, Wattson automatically restores 1 shield over time every 2 seconds. Her ultimate (Pylon) is always on her back. Most of us Wattson mains really love Wattson because she a shield health healing Legend. This being her passive would help her out greatly.

Interception Pylon

Wattson's ultimate is currently fine. The only change I recommend is making it easier to see the inner and outer circles of the Pylon. Sometimes it's impossible to see it and teammates, including the Wattson player be in the outer ring and when we throw nades. It eats our own nade and abilities. The ring should allows be showing or something much like Revenant's Death Totem is easy to see where the ring ends for his ult. Wattson's ult Rings Fade away which is the problem.
Teammates shouldn't be allowed to destroy their teammate's Wattson Pylon. Only the Wattson can destroy (shoot) her own ultimate. This is a problem where some randoms actually destroy their own teammate's ult for no reason at all (they stupid). Teammates cannot destroy a friendly fence, so they shouldn't be able to shoot her ultimate. Wattson's ultimate will be placed in a safe reasonable place and not a troll location (caustic blocking a door with canister). Probably something that won't happen but it a quality of life change.

Bug Fixes for Pylon

Friendly Caustic Nox Gas Traps (and on rare occasions Bangalore's Smoke Launcher) can stop Pylon's shield regenerating effects from working. Once the gas starts to clear away, Pylon's regeneration effect starts working again. Do keep in mind that the Pylon will still shoot down incoming ordnance, but won't repair damaged shields as long as the gas or smoke is still there.

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Bolbi_Ket
6 years ago
@Leo_the_Lion25 I love wattson, and I feel like she indeed could have maybe a bit of love from the devs ^^
I like the idea of the cooldown reduction, but I think that right now it is like that because it is intended to be used when you are settuping a building with your ult deployed.
But indeed having to wait 2 minutes to being able to place 4 pylons... it is a little bit long I guess, you have to use it carefully if you don't have your ult, so maybe deducing it to 1 min 40 could help.
Especially if you just got out of a fight and you'r getting 3rd partied and don't have your ult, 20 sec less could maybe be a life savior in those cases, without being too powerfull I think? (I may be wrong...)
For the pylons life, 25HP is still more than caustic bombs wich are 1 shot, and a big part of the pylons is placing them in a way that the ennemies can't destroy them easily.
So that would be a buff to the wattson that use their pylons in the open, wich I think is not what is the intent of the character and even tho it should not specially be punished, it should not be encouraged I think.
I +1 you on the fences damage, just a tad more would be nice to disuade someone to pass through, withour being to OP.
For the time of placement of the fences, I think it is like Wraith when she goes into the void, she got some time before she got her weapon ready to shot again because it is not designed to push too agressivly on the ennemy.
That's the same for the fences I think, it is not intended to be used in fight, it is a tool that must be setup before the fight.
This is all the character is about, she's a setup character as I call her ^^ she work well with a pathfinder for example : know where the circle is going to be, pick a building in the zone and setup in it and be ready when others team come.
Off course not at the beginning of the game, more when there is only 3 or 4 teams left ^^ (that is just my idea of the character and how I understand her gameplay, I didn't say this is the only way she must be used, just that I think that it is the main way the devs planned her to be used =)
I like the idea of her being imune to other fences, if I am not mistaking Caustics are immune to other Caustics gas no (I didn't play him much sorry ><) if it is the case, I think it would be kind of logic to have Wattson imune to all fences. But as a drawback that would nullify the utility of the fences as you could destroy it like it's nothing after passing it... so gameplay wise it may be better to left it the way it is no? =s
+1 for giving shield back on res ^^ it fit well with the character
Shield restoration is a tricky one, for example Octane restore his life because he got a Q that take some of his life... So we would need something that take some of her shield to have her get some regeneration (maybe placing a fence take some of her shield? but if you have no shield... you can't place fences? that's a complicated one...)
+1 for the range visibility of her ult =)
Teammates destroying her ult can be useful, for example if you are relocating and you know another team is coming behind, it can be useful to detroy her ult to not give them an advantage... and if wattson is too far away to do it or if she's already dead... well that's not good for your team ^^
I understand that it can be frustrating to have teammates that destroy it for no reason but for me and my friends it would be horrific if they could not destroy it when needed =)
Damn I didn't expect to bring such a large response >< anyway good propositions nontheless =) bring some love to Wattson!! 😛 (ho and I read my text back but I'm pretty sure some may find a lot of errors in my non native english speaking arse text 😛 so please excuse me ^^) Bye! ;p
Sir_Named
6 years ago
@Leo_the_Lion25 I don’t really know about the Low Profile thing. I get that she isn’t actually that hard to hit, but she does have a relatively small hitbox, and the pylon on her back can be a bit misleading. Also, being hard to hit does matter in pro levels, it seems, as one of Wraith’s big advantages is her small hitbox, and that’s what a lot of pros use her for. All in all, my vote is maybe.

For her tactical:
I think it probably should stay 30 seconds, because she has her ult. Her ult can be easily spammed with a few accelerants, plus it provides a lot of advantages. She has the option to drastically reduce the cooldown if she places her ult, while Caustic does not.
With the 25 health thing, just place it to the sides of the entrance. If you put it in a place where enemies can’t shoot, then it’ll stay there indefinitely (until you remove it or something). Sure, they can toss grenades in to destroy the nodes, but again, the ultimate counters this.
Increasing the damage could be okay. Just keep in mind 2 things: 1. You can make a triangle pattern with the fences to deal 20 damage. 2. The fences are mainly good for guarding your flanks, forcing enemies to go a certain route, alerting you to enemies, or slow them down.
The wiki has some tips for this which I think are useful.
https://apexlegends.gamepedia.com/Wattson#Tips
Node speed I agree with.
Spark of Genius:
Wattson shouldn’t be immune to other Wattson traps. That’s more of a Caustic ability, plus her voicelines about being ready and charged don’t translate exactly to being electrically insulated.
The revive should do something special, she does have a special animation for it.
I don’t think Wattson should be regenerating shields. Mainly because that is her ultimate, plus we already have a regenerating legend.
Pylon:
Again, I am not sure that the inner ring/outer ring thing actually has any merit. I don’t think it actually does anything, and the wiki doesn’t have any mention of it either. The pylon is just a neutral thing that can destroy friendly ordnance and enemy ordnance.
Teammates probably should have the ability to shoot the pylon. If your teammates are bad and destroy it for no reason, then they’re just bad teammates. Teammates can also activate Caustic traps, so it’s not like Wattson is the only one hurt by this.
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Seasoned Ace
6 years ago
@Leo_the_Lion25 Wattson has a fairly small hitbox so low profile makes sense. Reduction to tactical coolown and animation is ok if it was just a little bit but 50 node health is too much, 35 would be ok I think. As for the fence damage I don't agree on this one because the purpose of the fence isn't meant for only damaging legends who pass through it but to also slow down their movement and aiming speed and making them easy to take down for a short time now if you say that the fences should slow legends for longer time then that would make more sense. I disagree that Wattson shouldnt be effected by enemy fences. As for reviving with shield (spoiler) there are leaks that shows every defensive charecter would be able to revive teammates with 50 shields. Now for recharging shields passively I think it would be op especially when her pylon can already recharge her shields beside (another spoiler) I think the ability to do that is given to an upcoming charecter. Finally I disagree with teammates not being able to destroy friendly Wattson pylon as it can be placed in a bad spot and as a result it would effect her teammates negatively.
Leo_the_Lion25
6 years ago
@Sir_Named Don't know why you're linking a site I literally edit and add information too. Heck, you see my name in Wattson's edit history.
Sir_Named
6 years ago
@Leo_the_Lion25 Well, then you can take a look at what you edited.
Leo_the_Lion25
6 years ago
@Sir_Named I don't need to.
Sir_Named
6 years ago
@Leo_the_Lion25 Ok then.
Imminent-TTV
6 years ago
@Sir_Named I dont know why someone would aim at her pylon in general my man, Me coming from lifeline playing at high tier levels, pred lobbies and even scrims... Wattson is very disavantaged vs wraith, pathfinder and others Wattson is like Caustic but with 5% increase damage taken if i'm out in the open i get punished regardless which makes sense but there should be no reason for countless nerfs if the character is basic as it is. - JohnD3mon
Sir_Named
6 years ago
@Imminent-TTV Eh, maybe the occasional situation where you want to leave a house, but have to break the pylon so enemies can’t use it. Or maybe if an enemy is using your pylon.
Enemies would definitely/should definitely aim for the pylon. Since you can shoot it but not grenade it, then shooting it is the only way to destroy it. (Without Crypto or Caustic)
Sir_Named
6 years ago
@Imminent-TTV You play Lifeline at high ranked levels, right? So how do you feel about the low profile nerf?