Is Your matchmaking that broken that You have to feed me up to predators?How I am suppose to win against full stacked squad of predators with two randoms that do not communicate and loot for half of the match and still have white armor?Is this Your idea of engagement? Probably but not for us - regular players.I have never played a ranked match as I don't care about that yet I am actually playing in Predator Lobbies in public? What the H is this?

@ItIsEndTimesYour comment doesn't make one ounce of sense...If they are losing badly, then they shouldn't be in lobbies with Preds...if they are around Pred skill level then they wouldn't be complaining about being paired with Preds.Your "git gud" mentality is exhausting and toxic in every gaming community.

Yes, except that is not what's happening.Lose sometimes, not all the time for hours on end.If EA and Respawn wants us to keep playing and spend money to fund the game why would they purposefully make the game a bad experience for some players?We literally pay their salaries, but can't have fun with the product we are investing in. Does that make sense?The better you get at Apex the harder the game becomes. So how are the best players still having such an easy time playing it? Is this not strange to you?It's fine to lose to better players, but not all the time.Average skilled players should have a chance to compete as well, not just get steam rolled by every 1st team they meet, and not only be able to play well in 1-2 out of every 20 matches. They are paying customers as well.If all the average players left and only the best players are playing against each other you would understand this, this game would die.

I've read many of your posts on mm and you are not wrong."Everyone should play their exact equal and everyone should win at the same rates overall.." - I'm not for this idea either, but rather facing people more or less in the same ballpark skill wise. And I'm only saying that as a compromise because we know sbmm isn't going anywhere. As it is now it's far too aggressive for some people, like you, who can only achieve a 2% win rate even though you are a better player than most.If a player wins 5% of matches, he's losing 95% of them. To me that's a very small reward vs investment. And that number is basically being forced on us, not earned, so why even play? Ever wonder why other masters players have higher win rates but not you? That's the real question. I saw a pred today with a kd of 16. Yes 16.00. How is he pulling this off if he should in theory only be playing other preds / masters? Favoritism? Don't get me wrong, I think sbmm should die in pubs. If only the top 10% of players pose a threat it makes sense that they would win more and deservingly so. But it also means I would be seeing them much less in theory. The rest is a dice roll. And I'll be ok with that. But right now better players are being forced onto average players most of the time due to the whole playerbase not being accessible to each other.

@Ryuta47 So if preds are hot-dropping and dying quickly and I am playling "for the win" and kill 3 people along the way the MM thinks that I am better then them? Don't You think this system is broken?

@PsyhiX69 The people who defend the matchmaking are top level players. The pathfinder guy on here defending it admitted to being masters. So of course they see no problem with it. Because they get to stomp players who are much worse than them. It fuels their ego. Makes them feel good. It is average players like us who get the short end of the stick. If predators are the top 700 in the world, I should theoretically never see one. Especially one with a dive trail. I highest I have ever been ranked is platinum 4. My lifetime K/D is like 1.02 or something and I have no where close to 10k career kills.Playing in a lobby full of masters and predators every match is completely unfair. My theory is that the player base is getting smaller every day. I had issues playing sweaty bois in past seasons but not this much. What makes this issue even worse is almost all masters and predators on console are mouse and keyboarding WHICH IS CHEATING. Google defines cheating as : "act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage, especially in a game or examination" Mouse and keyboard gives you a CLEAR unfair advantage over players on controller therefore mouse and keyboarding is cheating. People who defend this are people who mouse and keyboard on console. Also they are admitting they are bad by mouse and keyboarding on console because they need an unfair advantage to get kills and win.And ranked is not the solution. 75% of people on console are smurfing.

Why I am being put in with Predators in one lobby?

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PsyhiX69
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@Ingeniekey Quitting does not really work as the matchmaking will match me again against different stacked predators over and over.
I think I have to quit at least 3 times to finally be in lower tier lobby... Even then I won't see high-tier players as the champions squad but they will be in the lobby anyways.
Too many times the very last squad is the pre-stacked predators or masters.
Sorry to my teammates but I just dc then.
There is no way that I can kill players that jump on me at the same time believe me I have tried many times to know it's almost impossible if there are 3 of them left... if one yes it's possible.
Solim66
4 years ago
@ShakyMinMin That would be interesting to see. It would also show the formation of ridiculous lobbies so the devs will never show such an overview. Just assume that everyone ranging from fresh player to seasoned predator can get into the same lobby.
Axs5626Sxa5001
4 years ago
@PsyhiX69 Here’s my position:

I almost exclusively play Diamond/Master/Pred in pubs. If everyone of my lobbies is like this, that means those top tier players are NOT in your lobby.

I’m not saying you don’t occasionally run into top level players, but are you legitimately being dropped into lobbies that are only Diamond/Master/Pred.

I am.

Every match.

I don’t get the easy lobbies people like you keep complaining about. Again, I am NOT saying you aren’t seeing these players.

But there is a difference between sometimes seeing them and EXCLUSIVELY seeing them.
OldTreeCreeper
Hero+
4 years ago
@Axs5626Sxa5001 sometimes I see the master and pred trails in pubs but not that often, sometimes there can be a lot of them in a game too, but I think that's down to more reduced numbers of players as I play late at night. I do try to stay well away from them though jic 😃
PsyhiX69
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
Looks like I have de-ranked in public mm:
Now I usually see only masters...
SelfNonSelf
4 years ago
@PsyhiX69 can you post a screenshot of your own stats screen?
PsyhiX69
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@SelfNonSelf There You go.
Let the roasting begin:
SunlessMeridian
4 years ago
@PsyhiX69 Dude, you're in the top 1% of players with stats like that...who do you want to fight??? You're in those lobbies because you should be not because the game is broken.
Solim66
4 years ago
@PsyhiX69 I agree with @SunlessMeridian on this one, I didn't expect your stats to be this good. I'm really curious now what kind of lobby you expect. If you don't belong in high end lobbies (you almost had a 5k dmg game...), then who does?
PsyhiX69
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
I think I will just go now...

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