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5 years ago

Why the R99 made sense in its TTK in S1 and the game felt fluid + Season 5

When season 1 started the game was a blast, it was a new BR, amazing visuals, amazing scenery, we were introduced to a new pinging system, the guns felt amazing, the characters powers were amazing, u...

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MoNosDirtyGamin

5 years ago

@heme725 Have you seen the trailer for Season 5? It looks really good, I can only hope we all get a bunch of new content.
I used to shred and get shredded by the R99, I never minded it.

I play on console, the damage on the Havoc is a joke. It is a big problem, next to 0 recoil (since the pattern is easy to master) and if you hipfire it you always kill your opponent unless you're bad at the game. Can't tell you how many times I've had 14+ kills just to die to the last team cause 1 person had a havoc and couldn't aim for the life of him but could run up to my face and hipfire. I do not think the Havoc should retain its hdps, it is the strongest gun on the game, with 0 skill to use. It is getting nerfed in S5 though.

heme725

5 years ago

@MoNosDirtyGaming I haven't seen the trailer but I feel like I have to now. You've honestly got me a little pumped for Season 5.

Perhaps I just haven't fought skilled enough opponents then. The highest I've climbed has been Plat 1 and refused to move on to Diamond for stupid reasons. At Platinum on consoles nobody can use the havoc at mid-range. If its in an open field I'll often side step around havoc shots. If I'm trapped in a room with a havoc user then I"ll typically die unless I have a wingman but open field? No chance. The R-99 and R-301 have zero problems dropping me at mid-range so they felt like easier guns to me.

There's also nothing a havoc user can do if you have any cover to step behind.

If they do nerf the Havoc's damage then it'll just become the mozambique in my eyes. I'm not taking a gun that has average damage and a slow charge up time. What reason would anyone have to pick it over the alternator or hemlock at that point? Or did your vision of a havoc nerf give the gun any sort of purpose?

MoNosDirtyGamin
5 years ago
@heme725 Right now at close range the havoc/r99 are the best 2 guns to use. Havoc takes 0 skill to use, its actually annoying af and I hate going up against players who use that trash gun, nothing you can do against thjem because they always rush you when its a 2v1
- heme725
  5 years ago
  @MoNosDirtyGaming It seems that we just won't agree on these points. Personally I find that neither the R99 or havoc take that much skill to use at close range. The havoc is easier due to the larger mag size and higher damage and the R99 is slightly trickier to use in that area between mid-range and close range. At the edge of where hipfire starts to be inconsistent.
  The drawback of the charge up time often means I won't use a havoc past mid game (unless I'm using Gibraltar) while the R99 is a top gun at any stage for any character (except for Gibraltar debateably.)
  The gun's main advantage is its insane damage but without it the havoc is trash. If you want to nerf it then you'd have to give it an advantage somewhere else.
  - LordloshBang
    5 years ago
    While i totally don`t agree with the OP, i kinda don`t agree with you on some points.
    Actually to be good with R99, you need skills, you need to learn the recoil pattern and actually need to know what you are doing. But R99 is in perfect shape right now and its perfectly balanced.