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SilentChillBruh's avatar
SilentChillBruh
6 years ago

Wraith running through Wattson fences is Not ok.

What is the point for already the worst characters defense if you can just run through it?  There is no point of setting up defenses if wraith can walk through any amount of fences unscathed and por...
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Babbediboopi's avatar
Babbediboopi
6 years ago

1) Did you watch the Preseason Invitational just the other day? There were pretty much one Watson in EVERY squad. So to say Watson is the "already worst character defence" (I assume that you think Watson is under-powered) is just wrong. She might be a bad Legend in low ELOs or in casual random games where the meta is to just run around and frag but its quite the opposite at high ELO.

2) Watson, together with Pathfinder and Mirage, is one of the few Legends whos Q ability is totally beneficial for herself and the team, and totally un-beneficial for the enemies. Lifelifes drone heals enemies, Bangalores smoke clouds everyones vision, Bloodhounds scan reveals his own exact position, Caustics gas blinds and slows his teammates, Gibraltars dome blocks friendly fire as well, wraith cant see * whats going on outside while in the void and Ocates Q costs health and makes alot of sound.

3) It makes no sense why Wraith SHOULD be affected by the fence while in the void. Its her unique ability; to be totally unaffected by things outside the void for a brief period of time.You think its NOT OK for Wraith Q to counter Watsons Q but its totally fine for Watsons ULT to counter both Gibraltars and Bangalores ULT? And why dont you complain about Bloodhounds Ult countering Bangalores Q etc etc etc?

SilentChillBruh's avatar
SilentChillBruh
6 years ago
@Babbediboopi 1) Just because high ranking pros are using her in a 500,000 tournament means it justifies her abilities and nerf. Why have a player that no use causally, and barely any use rank unless you are high Diamond, Apex or in these thousand dollar tournaments, where keep in mind 10+ squads moving circles. No one. Is. Moving. This is the only situation I am seeing a use for her. Unless you are an innovative high skilled player, any situation any legend works for you. (Not very many)

2)Watson and pathfinders Ult benifits EVERYONE. Anything opposing or not gets sucked up. Bangs, smoke & ult, Caustics Ult, Gibbys ult, all projectiles regardless of whose team you are on. People please don't go wasting your caustic ult or bangs smoke & ult because you think your teammates wattson ult wont suck it up. Once you throw that grenade it's gone. And I just talk to my homies the other day about paths ult. How you can't take it down and once you put it up it's free game. You have invited the team up to your playing field.

3) I Understand her void and jumping diminishes which other people have stated you can hear her coming which is totally acceptable. My issue with it is that you are already nerfing wattson so much from already not good protection. even in casual play all legends are do-able. I've even switched to octane main because he is of more use. It's almost unplayable to use her ranked or casual unless I'm in a $1000 tournament/high diamond on apex(which I am not). I would need to use another legend just to get there.
And to keep in mind when you are playing as/against Wattson. She can only use one ult one at a time, it is very easily shot out, and the chances of her carrying more than one Acc. is unlikely due to how much bag space it takes up. Have fun toying with her chances of survival.
  • Babbediboopi's avatar
    Babbediboopi
    6 years ago

    Please dont use straw-man arguments if we are gonna have a serious discussion. I never said she needed a nerf because she is a top pick in competitive play. I said that she isnt weak. And also, I think you are kinda wrong. I mean, you do understand that they need to balance they game based on something? And if we now have to choose that something to be either balancing it for lower ELO or higher ELO, the balance must be according to high ELO, rather than low ELO. And in higher ELO, Watson is not bad.

    And we dont even have to talk PRO scene. My two accounts are Diamond and Platinum and IF my squad really is gonna try to push and tryhard, a Watson is extremely useful. I agree that Watson is quite useless IF you just want to run around towards every fight and just frag, which is something that I really enjoy too, but so is Caustic. 

    • SilentChillBruh's avatar
      SilentChillBruh
      6 years ago
      @Babbediboopi yes you are saying that she isn't weak which I'm not sure where I said that she is weak, but if you want to start that separate argument we can. Strictly talking about her poor defense set up. Nothing to do with how weak they are. It's a matter of WHAT she can do. If we are talking about how weak it is we are talking exactly how many shots it it takes destroy her ult, fences, and how much damage you take when going through them. I have pointed out that her ult can easily be shot down but that's pretty vague. Idk or care why you are saying I'm using weak arguments but you still haven't responded to your 2nd statement I covered about patherfinder and her ult being beneficial towards both squads. I even tried it again today to make sure. Yes me and my teams projectiles are still sucked up.

      And yes you did insinuate that because there was a wattson on almost all the teams in the tourney its suppose to defeat my argument about her set up and nerf on the set up. Lol I'm talking about the Set up for defenses. The use of her abilities.

      And yes I am talking about the pro scene because you brought it up. It was literally the first thing you said.

      I really hope you are not saying caustic is useless. The guy who has throwable defense/attack projectiles passive and ult. Compared to Wattson he is OP. Bad example. The only difference is that you can't see his defense set unless you have bloodhound or wraith.

      It is also not a flex that you have to accounts that are diamond and platinum. Congrats on the Diamond though



      • Babbediboopi's avatar
        Babbediboopi
        6 years ago
        @SilentChillBruh
        Based on your answers, I seriously doubt you understand English. Have a nice day and watch out for that void walking Wraith!

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