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@EA_Blueberry wrote:Starting with Patch 1.1.1, Gibraltar and Caustic will get a new perk added to their passive - Fortified**, which reduces damage taken by 10%.** Over the week or two following this change, we will be watching how they perform with this additional protection and aggressively tune it if they are still underpowered relative to their size. Our goal is to ensure both Legends are viable picks by the end of this process.
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16 games 17 deaths 0 kills as Gibraltar, all games were played tonight... i will continue to play tonight and upload compilations of every gibraltars death using this new found 10 percent passive to Gibraltar. my message is 10 percent is muy bueno for caustic but not enough for Gibraltar, maybe 30 percent passive damage reduction is needed because 10 percent isnt enough..;
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@gg123xyz wrote:
16 games 17 deaths 0 kills as Gibraltar, all games were played tonight... i will continue to play tonight and upload compilations of every gibraltars death using this new found 10 percent passive to Gibraltar. my message is 10 percent is muy bueno for caustic but not enough for Gibraltar, maybe 30 percent passive damage reduction is needed because 10 percent isnt enough..;
Looked like a rough night for you playing as Gibraltar, but if you're not used to playing as a specific Legend there will be a learning curve on how to best utilize their abilities and adapt your playstyle to compliment the rest of your squad. Every Legend has their own niche in Kings Canyon. For example, you might want to be more defensive with Caustic hiding out in buildings compared to Pathfinder where you want to be out in the open on ledges.
Here are a couple things I did notice from your video:
I would consider the things above just plain bad luck. One thing I do recommend after watching those clips is to stay in tighter formation with your squad. You don't want to get caught in 1v1 situations as Gibraltar and ensure the rest of your squad can use the dome of protection to their advantage too.
Personally, I would try stay on the inside rim of the dome of protection. If you are rocking a Peacekeeper or EVA-8 you can pop in and out of the dome at enemies. If you're in the middle, I consider that "no-mans-land" and the enemy can do what I just said above to you instead.
Hope you have some better games today and we love the feedback we're seeing in here from all of you. Keep it coming!
Your reply here shows how Gibraltar and Caustic struggle to keep up with their squads, and that Caustic is actually best when playing in a building presumably again away from his squad.
So what's the point of 10% damage absorption when they both need far greater mobility to stay with their squads so that don't rely on squad mates in the way that other Legends don't rely on squad mates either.
It's a squad game but where is the care and attention from the devs to make sure that squad play is evolving?
I think this is a lily-livered patch.
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@warslag wrote:
So what's the point of 10% damage absorption when they both need far greater mobility to stay with their squads so that don't rely on squad mates in the way that other Legends don't rely on squad mates either.
Regarding 10% damage reduction, this was the official response on why the development team leaned in that direction:
At the start of Season 1, we previously talked about how our beloved Thicc Bois (Pathfinder, Gibraltar and Caustic) were getting crushed due to their hitbox size compared to other Legends. We first wanted to try adjusting hitboxes to better fit the model. For Pathfinder, this change worked very well. (Note: separately, we are actively investigating and working on fixing unrelated hit registration issues sometimes affecting all characters). However, after looking at the data and player feedback, Gibraltar and Caustic only improved slightly with the hitbox adjustments.
We don’t believe that hit box and character kit tuning is sufficient to bring Gibraltar and Caustic in line with their smaller competitors. Starting with Patch 1.1.1, Gibraltar and Caustic will get a new perk added to their passive - Fortified**, which reduces damage taken by 10%.** Over the week or two following this change, we will be watching how they perform with this additional protection and aggressively tune it if they are still underpowered relative to their size. Our goal is to ensure both Legends are viable picks by the end of this process.
Additionally, we’re also making a few quality of life kit adjustments to ensure their marquee abilities are a more impactful part of their individual playstyles.
Gibby struggle in short and medium distance combat so He also struggles in the room, dancing the tango with an enemy, he seems naked in open space.
He is suitable for long-range combat with a sniper-type weapon but this game is not suitable for a sniper, enemy move so fast, barely any of them stay put for 1 second, they all jump like a bunny.
Whoever born (designs) Gibby, she needs to ask him to get slimmer before session 2.
Why can't he get slimmer?? Any reason he has to be that FAT?
@EA_BlueberryThanks for linking that. The justification for the 10% thing is poor and the reasoning behind it does not support either squad play or solo play for Gibraltar or Caustic.
@asukojoThey are big because they are supposed to do a mega amount of damage through their Ultimate abilities.
Obviously these abilities have emerged to not be anything like as affective as they would have to be to justify the size of the two Legends.
They are useless when they don't have squad mates around which means they are just useless.
I think they should be retired and replaced. The super-scientists at Respawn could just recycle them into small fast Wraith-like Legends as that is undeniably the meta and the devs have done nothing to change that with this patch.
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