He is one for the low tier legends and among the least picked legends. I wonder if they ever fix it…

@Cheese9Man Clearly his uncle works at Respawn lol

@damsonwhufndthis Gonna wear my tinfoil hat here. I honestly think that they deliberately overpowered him and they already have a ready-to -go patch for the nerf. It was the fastest nerf a new legend got. I believe it was just 2 weeks from the start of the season, Seer was nerfed to the ground unlike other OP legends like Horizon where she was slowly nerfed over time.@Kel We all know that they can’t remove a legend. Lol. I 100% agree that we need defensive legends though. The last one was more than a year ago with Rampart. Every new legend has been a recon or a mobility legend except for Fuse but basing from the leaks, it’s more likely that we’ll get more of the same types of legends.

I think the 'problem' with Seer was that when he came out, everyone wanted to give him a go (which is only natural). This lead to lobbies with 20 Seers in it. During a fight, the screen would be come a complete mess of Seer's tacticals and ults. It was terrible, and led to people screaming 'Seer is OP!' as opposed to 'Too many people are playing Seer!' which is what was actually happening. So, to stop people abandoning Apex they gave Seer several nerfs. As a result, Seer is now not that attractive a legend.His lines are dumb too. "Drop here, 'tis Beautiful!" - vomit.

What makes ppl think that Seer's abilities being nerfed is the main reason that he is rarely used today and in the bottom tier for legends?Almost every apex player I know, stopped using him sorely based on the fact that using a legend that wallhacks says something about you as a player. My friends refuse to use him because they feel like they are cheating or using a crutch or feel others look down upon them for resorting to a legend that hacks to play. Using a Seer, to some says - "I suck and have to use a legend with built in hacks to be good." I personally have no respect for anyone that uses a Seer period...(go ahead, personal attacks welcome). Scanning abilities are not the problem when made right and made to be used in a way that doesn't support hacking or breaks the game. Bloodhound is proof of that. He has always had scanning abilities yet is not OP and his abilities come at a cost. I personally feel BH is balanced beautifully. I also don't feel Seer's tac or ult is an issue at all at this point. His PASSIVE is still and no matter what Respawn Devs try to do with it - it will always be broken, a mess, absurd, ridiculous, pathetic and down right sickening. Still to this day.... the so called nerf they did to his passive was nothing! It did nothing, it made no difference....you can still with the touch of one button (one you use constantly) can wallhack well past 75 meters 360. Has anyone actually spectated someone using a Seer?? Do you see how pathetic and greasy it is and looks to see the person hitting aim and doing a quick 360 every couple seconds? I haven't met a skilled player that uses Seer and more so that wants to resort to using a Seer. Integrity believe it or not DOES matter to a lot of online gamers. The Dev that made him and more so, who thought up his passive, should be ashamed, fired and has no business being in the gaming design industry - FACTS. Whomever it was - you disgust me!So before you go assuming Seer isn't used cause he has been nerfed to the ground - think again. First time I used him, my partner and I won...it was just stupid, we knew where everyone was at all times...Tactical consideration was gone! The skill needed to be good and navigate properly to come out of a fire fight was gone! The whole match felt that way - might as well have been using real hacks to wipe the competition. It wasn't even fun. After we won, we felt like a couple of *, and swore we would never use him again. We don't wanna win that way - its the same reason we don't use hacks, or want to use hacks. We want to earn our wins fairly and with integrity and some form of honor. However not all feel that way clearly - As Apex is riddled with hackers and cheaters. It surprises me that more of these douche bags don't use Seer more often. Seer and Seer's passive is the sole reason I lost faith in Respawn Dev team! It is also the reason I did not vote for Respawn for the awards they were nominated for. It is also the reason I no longer get excited for new legends being made and added, out of fear of the same * Seer brought to the game. I feel the Devs are running out of ideas for abilities and I am certain at some point we will see more Hacks as legend abilities in the future. No body seems to learn from their mistakes these days.

@NickBeam27 wrote:What makes ppl think that Seer's abilities being nerfed is the main reason that he is rarely used today and in the bottom tier for legends?Almost every apex player I know, stopped using him sorely based on the fact that using a legend that wallhacks says something about you as a player.Nah I doubt that. People will do everything to get wins and the upper hand (and even use cheats just to win games). How about BH players?

Any hope for Seer? | EA Forums

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damsonwhufndthi
4 years ago
@Alphabetsare you asking the right questions?
Hmmmmmmm nobody picks Seer I wonder why,
I wonder why I haven't bought Seer yet, hmmm perhaps Bloodhound is basicaly the same bloody legend but with a different type of tracking and in some areas has better application?
hmmm perhaps the sweats don't need to track they can just use their eyes and ears (allthough the sound can be buggy so only half time) to fight the enemy
talking about sweats they probably wanna play legends that move, and give actual tactical advantages
who needs tracking, when you can have a barrier, shield, silence, jump pad, grapple, decoy and decoy escape, traps,line of sight blocker, airstrike
do you understand now?
Alphabets
4 years ago
@damsonwhufndthis True, it’s a weaker Bloodhound now with limited range and strange passive (you can hear footsteps from close and use your eyes for distance, instead of having a passive). I don’t understand why they released it. They nerfed all of his abilities (passive, tactical, ultimate) just 2 weeks after release and since then I almost haven’t seen any Seer in a match… except maybe a few in casual mode. I hope they redesign his kit and make him computable with Bloodhound at least
Cheese9Man
4 years ago
@Alphabets Any suggestions on how to buff him?
Alphabets
4 years ago
@Cheese9Man Maybe they can make his ultimate to be like tactical and shows the stat of enemies inside it. It’s better than Bloodhound’s at the same time it can be destroyed and covers a certain area and players can also crouch or stand still to avoid getting detected. This makes it a little different from Bloodhound, at the same time makes it better than what it is currently.

It if was too OP, in the next step they can turn his tactical like old ultimate, which means tactical only detects and show moving enemies for 6-8 seconds and don’t show stats and let them hid by standing still; thought it will be like a weaker Bloodhound tactical.
KelRiever
4 years ago
Like I've said before, Seer won't be nerfed enough until he's deleted.
Respawn's dump on defense characters, with worthless nerfs, that they already had in the game and people are worried about Seer? A character that makes the game less fun for everyone? A whole character class sits pointless and Seer is the problem?
Delete Seer, work on the characters that were in the game that have been ignored (worthlessly 'buffed') since Season 2 (oh and Rampart, Season 6)
damsonwhufndthi
4 years ago
@Alphabets @Cheese9Man
Honestly I don't know why they had to nerf him all across the board, they could have just slowly nerf him.
Also there are other Legends that are less fun to play against...
Cheese9Man
4 years ago
@damsonwhufndthis Gonna wear my tinfoil hat here. I honestly think that they deliberately overpowered him and they already have a ready-to -go patch for the nerf. It was the fastest nerf a new legend got. I believe it was just 2 weeks from the start of the season, Seer was nerfed to the ground unlike other OP legends like Horizon where she was slowly nerfed over time.

@Kel We all know that they can’t remove a legend. Lol. I 100% agree that we need defensive legends though. The last one was more than a year ago with Rampart. Every new legend has been a recon or a mobility legend except for Fuse but basing from the leaks, it’s more likely that we’ll get more of the same types of legends.
pandareno1999
Hero+
4 years ago
@Cheese9Man I don't mind your theory, but if I remember correctly, a significant change in the balance team happened around the same time. Coincidence? Maybe.
damsonwhufndthi
4 years ago
@Cheese9Manwhat Seer could do that he now can't? And what he still can do?
Cheese9Man
4 years ago
@damsonwhufndthis The nerf was mostly on his tactical.

Old tactical
- Has a flash bang effect once you get hit. For me this was the most annoying and strongest aspect of the old tactical
- Has 10 damage where you can knock someone with it
- had a shorter delay so it’s harder to dodge.
- Can cancel heals, revives and other abilities (still there)
- Reveals location of the enemy longer than BH
- Reveals enemy HP

Ultimate
- 90s cooldown compared to the now 120s
- hitbox changes to the ult where it’s now easier to destroy

Passive
- forgot but there were minor changes as well

The tactical was sooooo strong where it has 100 effects on the enemy player. And the worst part is that every team had a Seer so you’re getting flash banged every 5 seconds during a fight with multiple squads. Lol.

@pandareno Oh yeah our boi DZK left after that “thing”. Lol. Yes I completely forgot about that. JayBiebs has been a complete legend with the balances with the guns and legends since he replaced the old guy.