One of Apex's best game mode is already unplayable after first week. One side gets 10 or 15% ahead then 2 or more people immediately leave. Winning or losing it immediately ruins the game. Winning side dominates and losing side just cant keep up. Popular mode but it will shortly die if no penalty for leaving comes in. I know its a temporary mode but all that dev work for nothing if its unplayable.Its a pretty obvious solution. The same solution from Arena's when this same issue plagued Arena's on launch. Just bring it to all modes.

I wholeheartedly disagree to add penalties for leaving, introducing penalty for leaving will 100% make people not play it. I know that if the community playing control knew what makes a win (creates points fast) and they add a proper communication possibility for the full team it might change (not the 3 but the 9) or its going to be exactly as it is, it will not change in a week, or a year.Right now we live in an extremely unstable situation with the gameclient, it crash ever 2-3 games you play. People when the client crash and they are one a team not playing the objectives properly will most likely just dont give a hoot about reconnecting. Problem is control dont teach the player how to win, what gives points when and it even credits the wrong tachtics esp for the loosing side. This is the base problem with the system as is. BR took 12 seasons to get a decent point system, Arena is strugling in a great way and control is no better off.If you play control you play either for being able to hit the fray real fast or you wont be happy with the mode. To make it a viable competitive mode where people actually try hard they need to tweak the format and teach the masses or it will be going the way its going.Edit: Yes they should let people choose if they queue for a game from start or any (even filler), it should be a choice at queue time. They should also look at their catchup mechanics, because now it credits the winning team not the loosing team, its a winning keep winning mechanic the bonus cap points :P...

Options:1. Pinalty for leaving as you said.2. We should be able to solo que so this solo que will replace the rage quit player. This's how Plants vs Zombie organized.3. Winning team player can switch to loosing team if they wanted to. Why ? Some player love challenge and action, they like to be the "HERO" aka "THE MAN".

We must live in an abusive society.When the first answer to making people play is punish them if they don't. In a game meant to be fun, no less.It's all about the incentives, certainly if you are also going to inflict a penalty, but you don't even need a penalty. Nobody has to be your team mate or play your game, but they will if there is something in it for themselves.I'm sure this is a test, and they were probably nervous considering Arena (unfounded) hate. People need benefits to unlock in Control, and that will help. And, sure, you'll hear screaming like, "WHY DO YOU MAKE ME PLAY CUNTROOOOLLL! wwaaahhHHHH!!" But whining is par for the course these days. If you are playing a game for the incentive, then obviously you want to play it. More benefits, more players. Especially in a for fun video game.

@KelRiever Thats a uh...unique way of spelling control. XDAgreed though, I feel like this game would be overall much more cohesive if there was more incentives In general.

@SmeeArgo I think youve gotta find a way to rebalance on the fly. Give the team with less players some sort of perk that scales with the number of quitters (more shields, faster shield recharge, quicker cap times, give them another spawn point, reduce their respawn timer), move players from one team to the other somehow, or allow solo queue players to join games in progress.

Apex's Best Game Mode: Control - Dying in First Week

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Kyldenar
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@KelRiever You really want to get people playing objectives?

Reward Crafting Metals (maybe even Apex coins) for high scores on objectives. Do the same in BR.

Yeah, you can drop Fragments hot, get like 10 kills and look impressive like a streamer (hint: you won't, or you'd already be one) or you can actually play the BR mode, survive to 3rd place or better, and get some guaranteed crafting metals, with a 2% chance at some 50 Apex coins or something. Maybe even Apex pack for 1st place.

Then suddenly people would be playing the modes they way they are designed.

More carrot, less stick.
Cheese9Man
4 years ago
@SmeeArgo Leaver penalties will be added to control https://answers.ea.com/t5/General-Discussion/News-Control-Leaver-Penalty-amp-bad-news-for-Cross-Progression/m-p/11288973#M199323
HappyHourSumwur
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@SmeeArgo I think youve gotta find a way to rebalance on the fly. Give the team with less players some sort of perk that scales with the number of quitters (more shields, faster shield recharge, quicker cap times, give them another spawn point, reduce their respawn timer), move players from one team to the other somehow, or allow solo queue players to join games in progress.
Zkepz
4 years ago
I wholeheartedly disagree to add penalties for leaving, introducing penalty for leaving will 100% make people not play it. I know that if the community playing control knew what makes a win (creates points fast) and they add a proper communication possibility for the full team it might change (not the 3 but the 9) or its going to be exactly as it is, it will not change in a week, or a year.
Right now we live in an extremely unstable situation with the gameclient, it crash ever 2-3 games you play. People when the client crash and they are one a team not playing the objectives properly will most likely just dont give a hoot about reconnecting. Problem is control dont teach the player how to win, what gives points when and it even credits the wrong tachtics esp for the loosing side. This is the base problem with the system as is. BR took 12 seasons to get a decent point system, Arena is strugling in a great way and control is no better off.
If you play control you play either for being able to hit the fray real fast or you wont be happy with the mode. To make it a viable competitive mode where people actually try hard they need to tweak the format and teach the masses or it will be going the way its going.
Edit: Yes they should let people choose if they queue for a game from start or any (even filler), it should be a choice at queue time. They should also look at their catchup mechanics, because now it credits the winning team not the loosing team, its a winning keep winning mechanic the bonus cap points :P...
RaginSam
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@Zkepz With penalties you would keep the people around actually trying to play the mode. The only people who would not benefit from this are the ones throwing a tantrum and leaving mid game. Maybe the overall initial population might be slightly lower, but the quality of the games would be a lot better. It would give Control a chance to survive. Otherwise it just ruins everyone's experience and no one will stay around for that.

Not sure why anyone would be so scared of penalties for leaving early in a game that relies on people staying? Do you even understand how it works currently? First time leaver gets something like a 10 minute ban from ranked and eventually gets longer the more times it happens. Not that big of a deal, but a deterrent from people just leaving on a whim every time.
HogynDrwg
4 years ago
@MandatoryIDtag wrote:
@KelRiever Thats a uh...unique way of spelling control. XD
Hahaha only just noticed 🤣
Ive been banned for less lol
Zkepz
4 years ago
Because a penalty penalize the other modes too, and penalization over good incentives is not as effective in the long run, i would understand a pen if it was ranked but not as a ltm or pubs game. Then idd rather just BR instead. However if you make refillable matchmaking as well as redo the bonus cap points toward a catch-up mechanic so you get bonuses when far under or missing people if they can get that right it makes the mode much more interesting for all in general and you would get a fairly close race every fight.
Cheese9Man
4 years ago
LMAO. We’re definitely winning this game. 🤣😅
pandareno1999
Hero+
4 years ago
With a bit if hindsight, this doesn't seem to have been quite the casual game mode Apex needed. Maybe a TDM would be much better suited.

I REALLY hope that they find a way to introduce a casual play mode that stays in rotation. It is SUCH a breath of fresh air to play Apex without knowing that one mistake and it's Game Over.
SmeeArgo
4 years ago
@KelRiever Its not like we proposing to castrate people. A small time penalty is hardly "abusive society". Game bans and penalties are in plenty of physical competitive sports plenty and a lot of other competitive e sports.

Bad losers ruin games. A small block out from playing that mode if they abandon would greatly improve the game for others. Honestly in 80% of the cases, with a little perseverance the game is still winnable.

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