Why am I constantly getting Bronze and Silver teammates in Ranked arenas? I lose more rp (-15) than I gain (+12) for matches and its getting pretty annoying.I cant play with my own friends who are lower ranked, yet i get stuck with randoms that low EVERY SINGLE GAME.What is wrong with the Arenas matchmaking?Before the season they claimed you should on average get +100 for a win and -50 for losses. That happened until the first update then its been f***ed ever since.

@CocoaHyena Indeed. 'Can't play with silver players as a party. But you can get them as a random teammate' Respawn logic

@CocoaHyena @RedAries @soccerking122 @KissYourHomieUwU I don't know why you guys even bother playing that useless mode. Ever since they introduced Arenas its matchmaking was very bad, even worse than BR pubs. And the fact that they don't show you your teammates rank says it all (this since they added ranked Arenas). So my question for you is: why do you still play Arenas? Just stop hurting yourselves, you'll only benefit from this lol.

@Cro_PitttLol. Exactly. Yeah, I had a goal to hit Masters/Preda but I lost interest so I'm not even sweaty anymore. Playing pubs with friends, having a laugh. That's my motivation now.

@RedAries wrote:@Cro_PitttLol. Exactly. Yeah, I had a goal to hit Masters/Preda but I lost interest so I'm not even sweaty anymore. Playing Apex with friends, having a laugh. That's my motivation now.💯💯💯💯💯

I got a match right after hitting plat 4, the game put me against A FULL 3 STACK PREDATOR with a PF that has over 50k kill while my total combine is less than 4k, meanwhile one of my teammates was silver 4, the other one hasn't even finished the 10 match placement. "We" (I mean "Me" alone) lose 3-0 with both of them still busy looking at the gun store until the timer run out and deal a total less damage than me picking the P2020 in a hot drop BR zonethis is a sick joke to make us hate the game even more and the fact that they ignore entirely any post complain about MM, especially arena point out how scummy they are. but hey don't talk mean words or we will send a bot to silent you

Bronze 4 teammates when Im plat 1 in arenas?

13 Replies

BaldWraithSimp
4 years ago
@CocoaHyena Indeed. 'Can't play with silver players as a party. But you can get them as a random teammate' Respawn logic
OldTreeCreeper
Hero+
4 years ago
@CocoaHyena @BaldWraithSimp I was put in a pub squad with 2 masters the other day, go figure??? 😃 I was playing catchup the whole game. We didn't win sadly.
KissYourHomieUw
4 years ago
I got a match right after hitting plat 4, the game put me against A FULL 3 STACK PREDATOR with a PF that has over 50k kill while my total combine is less than 4k, meanwhile one of my teammates was silver 4, the other one hasn't even finished the 10 match placement. "We" (I mean "Me" alone) lose 3-0 with both of them still busy looking at the gun store until the timer run out and deal a total less damage than me picking the P2020 in a hot drop BR zone
this is a sick joke to make us hate the game even more and the fact that they ignore entirely any post complain about MM, especially arena point out how scummy they are. but hey don't talk mean words or we will send a bot to silent you
soccerking122
4 years ago
@CocoaHyena that's what I've been trying to figure out too.

Since respawn didn't get too detail into their ranked system many people had to do it themselves.

This video by gaming merchant touches on it well when it comes to points, Windstreaks, and what hidden mmr is.
Link:https://youtu.be/tKh3yHuzlh0

The one thing I still can't figure out is why I keep getting low level teammates, even when I go on a winning streak. If I was on a really bad losing streak, than yeah, I can see it, but the having to fight plat and diamond players (sometimes, their duos/3 stacks) with a player who started a couple weeks ago isn't fair nor fun.
CocoaHyena
4 years ago
@soccerking122 Yeah I saw that video as well when he released it, but I believe theres a matchmaking issue that began after the 1st patch/update, and since, its trying to balance teams incorrectly. Averaging a Plat 1 player and a Silver 4 as a Gold 2 for example.

But the bottom line is, regardless of MMR you should not have teammates more than a rank below you, and IMO, that should be 4 levels.

I.E. a Plat 1 should not have below a Gold 1 teammate.
RedAries
4 years ago
@CocoaHyenaI was on a win streak in G1. 6th game got 2 teammates both in Bronze. ( LVL 3 and 6 ). Enemy team 3 stacking Masters. I have TRN extension so I see the current rank of others.
I lost the game at the end. Did clutched 2 rounds but when they saw my teammates were fresh players, they just pushed us and is perfectly fine because i'd do exactly the same. GGs for them.. I couldn't kill all 3.... I was punished for having a win streak. Why the hell I have to play with enemy teams 3 ranks above me??? How I'm supposed to rank up in this conditions? Additionally, poor fresh players! They were bronze fighting Masters in ranked. WTH?? Next game same guys... 🙂 Finally lost interest after 3 losses then I quit... Currently in P but I had to play a whole night to gain 1 rank because of those 3 losses in a row. I don't think its fair! So the idea is apparently ..if im not able to fight Preds I'm a looser. Brilliant! I understand fighting higher ranks in Diamond, then I can prepare myself 3 stacking with friends. I have 11k kills in Arena mode with 2k wins and 5m damage. I know I can handle Diamond rank with ease. Why do I have to grind like crazy for a Diamond rank this season? I have to deal with Preds, hackers and smurfs! So I don't think is worth my time anymore. My 2 friends (both Masters last seasons BR then Arena) we're all stuck in Plat rn.
RockDokRock
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@CocoaHyena wrote:
@soccerking122Yeah I saw that video as well when he released it, but I believe theres a matchmaking issue that began after the 1st patch/update, and since, its trying to balance teams incorrectly. Averaging a Plat 1 player and a Silver 4 as a Gold 2 for example.

But the bottom line is, regardless of MMR you should not have teammates more than a rank below you, and IMO, that should be 4 levels.

I.E. a Plat 1 should not have below a Gold 1 teammate.
@CocoaHyena That would work if skill was simply a linear scale. It's not. I've played for a very long time and I'm pretty average. A guy ranked a few tiers above me is going to be *much* better than me. That sort of ranking logic is deeply flawed (if it's true).
Cro_Pittt
4 years ago
@CocoaHyena @RedAries @soccerking122 @KissYourHomieUwU I don't know why you guys even bother playing that useless mode. Ever since they introduced Arenas its matchmaking was very bad, even worse than BR pubs. And the fact that they don't show you your teammates rank says it all (this since they added ranked Arenas). So my question for you is: why do you still play Arenas? Just stop hurting yourselves, you'll only benefit from this lol.
RedAries
4 years ago
@Cro_PitttLol. Exactly. Yeah, I had a goal to hit Masters/Preda but I lost interest so I'm not even sweaty anymore. Playing pubs with friends, having a laugh. That's my motivation now.
Cheese9Man
4 years ago
@RedAries wrote:
@Cro_PitttLol. Exactly. Yeah, I had a goal to hit Masters/Preda but I lost interest so I'm not even sweaty anymore. Playing Apex with friends, having a laugh. That's my motivation now.
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