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IdleHandsNo1's avatar
4 years ago

Changed my mind on Vantage

I was happy to get a load of games in before I made any serious comments on her, and I don’t like screaming nerf in the first day of release but she is frustrating the hell out of myself and friends right now. It’s all about that ultimate, my god it’s strong! I don’t see her pick rate dropping a huge amount because she’s a decent all round character, so something needs addressing to tone that thing down, I’m no expert but maybe a few tweaks to handling and bullet drop might help. I don’t mind being sniped at and using cover to heal etc, but it just devastates so quickly unlike any other sniper including the Kraber because it’s so slow with bullet drop to deal with. Just wanted to point out that the removal of jump towers on KC is making this situation much worse, traversing the map on foot in a lot of open areas just means multiple Vantages are always taking pot shots at you. I’ve tried using speed boost characters like MM but the sniper is so easy to hit with I’m just getting very frustrated.

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  • @Alphabets truly agree her tactical is gamechanger it so silent that her tactical is better than VTOL jet because you guaranteed will have high ground in no time
  • Lord_Scorpion34's avatar
    Lord_Scorpion34
    Legend
    4 years ago
    @kittysune It's limited to 40m which isn't a lot & if you lose sight of Echo for even a millisecond, it cancels out whether you were about to jump or not.
  • @IdleHandsNo1
    Yes this free charged Sentinel jusr easier to hit shots with is game-breaking especially when its abused by pre-mades. It makes pre-mades even more dominant.

    I can clearly see where this game is going and Im afraid Im gonna have to pass on this one because I dont have a pre-made team and Im outnumbered or onehitted by Snipers mark in like 75% of my games.

    I was thinking that Horizons ult is broken when used by pre-mades, its absolutelly nothing when compared to this little Kraber. I mean Vantage has a huge hitbox to make her somehow balanced in eyes of devs (or it atleast looks like it) but you wont get close enough to take advantage on that anyway so... :D

  • @Asmodeus566
    I guess we can call it more like a matchmaking problem, but I mean like Vantage is overpowered especially for pre-mades, Ive already explained that. She may be even kinda bad for solos because of her large hitbox and random teams mostly dont just stay away and snipe, they mostly push or fight at closer ranges from what I can tell after 1300 hours in Apex.


    Im just installing Warzone and talking here in meantime, I didnt mean for it to be looking like I have such a big problem with pre-mades that I have to spend hour on Apex forum. :D

    I like this game, but it just became too unfair. Especially when they buff pre-mades with mini Kraber as a third weapon for whole match. It was hard against pre-mades even before that. But I get it, this is a team based game. :D Like when it started to be super-hard for me in Gold2 it was a time to say something may be really wrong and because I like Apex a want it to be good as possible for everyone Im trying to tell something too and not just switch games. Id love to play Apex more than Warzone, but its just too hard already and wathcing them buffing pre-mades even more, its just goes against fair. Lot of people would love random lobbies only, or even only random (with duos too) ranking system soi they can get more fair games when they dont have friends to play with.

  • Asmodeus566's avatar
    Asmodeus566
    Hero+
    4 years ago

    @Awhoo_Thunder 

    You have answered your own questions here.

    EA did not buff pre-made 3 stack teams with the addition of Vantage or any other legend. 

    Pre-made teams have an advantage because they are playing as a team, communicating as a team, and have team strategies. This has nothing to do with a new legend or any other legend, they have to change their strat just as much as anyone else when a new legend is introduced.   

    Solo Q-ers are in fact at a disadvantage and again it has nothing to do with Vantage or any other legend.

    Solo Q-ers are mainly at a disadvantage because they will not be familiar with the play style of their randoms, communication will be an issue, trying to get on the same sheet of music to play as a team will be an issue and most solo Q-ers are not in fact team players, most are out their to just get kills and do not care about winning a game.

    In a team based game solo Q-ing is tough but is not impossible if one is lucky enough to get randoms that want to work as a team and win the game, the tough part is when all three players want to be the IGL and Rambo all at the same time.

  • @IdleHandsNo1 Back on the subject of Vantage needing a tweak, I’d say after some more sessions they need to decide what they want the ult to be, if it’s high damage then they should nerf the handling/hit box/ bullet drop, but if it’s an easy to use tool to tag and increase team mates damage then they should nerf the weapons actual damage. It’s not getting any less irritating having multiple Vantages sniping your team constantly.
  • pandareno1999's avatar
    pandareno1999
    Hero+
    4 years ago

    Anyone happen to see Jankz' video yesterday?  He's spent his last few streams playing with Zeus trying out meme-ey combinations with Vantage.  In this one, they tested what a charged Sentinel shot from behind a Rampart wall would do with the buff from Sniper's Mark.  Senti body shots were hitting for something like 141 dmg.