6 years ago
CHARGE RIFLE
The new CHARGE RIFLE weapon is too strong, should be from the drop like Mastiff or kraber, everyone is running with this rifle now.
@BiochemikasI agree, there is a lot of potential in the weapon - and it had some great work put into (from creative point of view) - to be honest, only thing that I´m crying about is the balance (and sad that I can't play Longbow anymore - if I face someone with CR I can't see anything when the initial laser hits me, and its alot easier for them to peek me so I´ve just droped Longbow) apart from balance, its has good design, but I´m still skeptic to the balance side - if the nerfs are too big, it will become obsolete, so I hope they test this and also invite part of the comp scene to also give feedback on balance.
Also it might have felt like a too big jump (meta) with the new map and CR ontop of it, that people just didn't recognize the game - that made a lot of people angry. It made me not want to use CR and ask for it to get nerfed to the ground, but frustration from the map was taken out on CR :P
@NitromethaneAP If you want to have massive advantage with longbow vs CR (in it's current state), all you need to do is find a midnrage engagement where both sides have cover. Charge rifle has no chance to outperform longbow if opponent can just duck out from most of it's damage (you feel the first tricke - you go behind cover, while if your longbow bullet connects - it hits in full). That's one quite common BR situation where CR is simply utterly completely inferior.
Of course, if the CR guy has any sense in him, he's not going to fight you and will simply not peek ever again XD. Well unless he's a god and can prefire 0.5 seconds in advance to hit the big damage the moment you peek.
P.S. Well you did say you want to play longbow.
@Biochemikas the moment they notice that you are using Longbow they will pre-fire and cover during reload, so I wont win those fights. Also they could simply strafe left/right/duck or preload duck and fire while I wont see anything - so me hitting them will be pointless. Best option imo is simply Wingman, since you´ll be able to manuver them + faster shoting rate helps, duck fire duck (so they will get overwhelmed - but still depends on distance if that will work).
Prefiring 0.5 seconds is infinitely harder than prefiring a longbow (milliseconds, depending on distance). Also, in this case longbow just outright does more damage (55 body vs 45 body, not even shooting head, where longbow just dominates).
If you can't see how hopeless this duel is for the CR, then you really have some grand delusions about CR's greatness.
If you try to fight peek wars CR vs longbow, then you're in for a world of pain (unless you 100% know the longbow person is a potato).
@Biochemikas Not really, I´ve done the same to people when I used CR - there´s no chance I was getting hit by a Longbow doing that. Since I have the upper hand, and for them to actually hit me - they would need to predict my movement while all I had to do was preload while I was peeking while strafing / ducking (meaning they could not even peek at me, its an losing battle for them and only drains their resources). Your best bet is Wingman, with the fire rate you can actually turn the table (but only for an amount of distance, long range is a nogo).
Well the charged rifle nerf finally arrived and they nicely didn't go overboard this time. As predicted - long range damage nerf. The damage drops off linearly from 45 (max) at 300m to 30 (min) at 500m.
P.S. I couldn't test trickle damage because for whatever reason the long range targets in practice don't register it.